Catgrill Night Jesterless - [2/7] - Jester won. Even two of them

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5 of them two hours in?

i mean gorta isn’t the hardest mishang

they can try

Ok well actually you’re on L2 and I almost made you L1 before realizing it’s not too hard to execute anyone here

Thread dead big sadge.

Anyways

I looked through Light’s ISO so I could take a look at his frustration on Gorta so far… and I found 1 post interesting

This is a post of Light basically going “oh crap wtf why is Gorta at L-1” after pushing Gorta…

Maybe I’m just stupid or overthinking this whole thing but this specific post intrigues me cause I wonder if this type of reaction after pushing someone like Gorta would come from town or scum.

See

In a world where Light is town, this type of response probably describes Light be shocked at how fast the push was. Something like “oh cool I will pressure Gorta so that he will po- HOLY CRAP WHY IS HE AT L-1”
I can probably maybe see that coming from town Light or just any townie in general, be a little startled by the fact that the person they just pushed is suddenly L-1 in like 20 minutes.

But in a world where Light is scum he can also think the exact thing.

Scum can also probably think “Oh hey I’m pushing Gorta cause ez mislonch bait go brr- WOAH OK THEN.”

So I’m basically going in circles with these thoughts right now and I’m absolutely getting no where, however @Aelin, I wanna ask you, what were your thoughts at the time behind this post? Like it’s obvious you were shocked but I’m wondering if you can give us more about this, cause this posts sorta stands out as an outlier in your ISO of basically complete aggression towards Gorta.

Post is probably NAI when I think about it… but I don’t know… it being an outlier in the entire ISO is just… too interesting to ignore.

I just wanted to share that.

Now outside of that one outlier.

I do like his initiative to take charge so far. Certain posts like these posts below so far are telling me that he’s willing to take initiative.

The willingness of someone wanting to take charge is probably more townier than scummier, so I give Light some town points for now.

Now granted, these posts are probably a little aggressive, especially that 3rd post, but meh.

Also, I am aware that scumLight can probably do this. I literally hosted the vig10er and I’ve seen Light be able to at least fake a decent towntone and iniative, hence making me less reluctant on just giving Light a decent townlean on this,

BUT Light said he would be more aggressive in general so I think his actions will probably give me a better idea of his alignment soon enough.

So currently, ignoring the outlier.

I’m putting Light as a nulltown. If I didn’t have the knowledge about his capabilities as scum, I would probably put him higher, so townlean probably.

This is likely gonna be my basis read for Light as of now. Expect it change drastically as the game moves on since I don’t think his initiative is the best way to read him (but it definitely isn’t useless info for a read on him), and there is definitely some better way to read him… so yeah.

I went and checked out DR5 cause it just ended and was annoyed because you guys are being stupid and putting people at L-1 randomly

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I’m down for pressure, not quickhammers.

Alright I guess it’s probably NAI then in that case.

I think you messed up what you were trying to say here, but just in case could you confirm?

Unless I’m blind.

I know the scumyou could probably fake a decent towntone and take some initiative.

I’m not calling you scum in any way though, I’m just saying I’m using that knowledge and becoming more reluctant on townleaning you because of it.

Okay, so you just made an oopsie. Makes sense.

Are you saying scumLight can’t fake a decent towntone and take some initiative then?

No, but you said it made you less reluctant which didn’t add up with everything else you were saying.

Go on…

… there’s nothing else to say?

No I mean…

What doesn’t add up exactly?

I’m more reluctant on giving you more town points so far because I know scumLight is capable of some things I mentioned about you that could suggest Town AI behavior.

It doesn’t mean I’m gonna call everything that just happened NAI.

Also… now onto Ami…

Gonna be totally honest, I originally thought that I was probably not gonna find anything really AI so far in Ami’s ISO.

They seemed to be defending Gorta in some way, whether that was intentional or not I don’t really know, but the reasoning behind it was honestly pretty fair. I don’t have much to say about it. However, I did find something interesting here.

Now here… is an interesting contradiction of posts.

In the first post, you can see her voting Gorta for reasoning I would assume was for pressure.

However, later down the line, she says that you shouldn’t pressure that early for content, which clearly contradicts the vote she originally placed.

Ami, if possible, could you explain why you went from “pressure someone” to “we don’t need to pressure so early”?

/vote Ami @eevee

These two posts contradicting each other is a little scummy, but not exactly super scummy in any way since I would expect wolves to have a proper rigid agenda that they’re gonna follow and not just quickly change thoughts out of no where without progression.

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Yes, but you said “less reluctant” in your first post about it and I was clarifying it was a mistake