Changes that I recommend for the classes in general (changed)

Class/Lore/Fanfic
#1

1.The king’s royal finger should be a passive, not an ability. When I had originally bought the game, I thought king was an important part to the game, who would have lots of power. In actuality, he doesn’t. I can understand deciding fate once, but currently the king will have to decide between getting someone on trial easier or deciding their fate. The royal finger passive would just make the king’s accusation count twice ALWAYS.

2.Make servant immune to being occupied don’t know why this was changed…

3.Change pants on fire Instead, you target a player; if another player attempts to use a day ability on them that day, they will instead target themselves.

4.A conversion for the alchemist currently, you just need to claim alchemist and blur someone for sweet sailing, supposing there is no kill-happy knight. The converted form would not have any uses of blur, but the alchemist would only have 1. I am pretty bad at making classes so someone else make it, I suggest calling it the “apothecary.” Note: If a conversion into unseen/cult for alchemist is made, it should be made so the sheriff can convert them into a knight as well.

#2

  1. Royal Finger being passive is Overpowered. It’s better as an Ability because of Decide Fate. Both Royal Finger and Decide Fate are powerful abilities. It should not be a Passive.

  2. Black Wine is gone.

  3. Pants on Fire being specific is very weak. Currently, it is strong, as you can defend one person from an ability. If you happen to know who Prince is, you can protect them from anybody using an ability.

  4. Alchemist* and no, Alchemist is fine as it is. Doesn’t need a converted Class because it simply must survive on it’s own. That is literally it.

  5. Physician is fine in Cult. Doesn’t matter if it’s better in Unseen.

  6. No.

That is all.

#3

I disagree, anyone can become the king. Also, it makes sense for the class called “king” to be slightly powered. Currently, a prince is much more useful to blue dragon than a king; they would rather a neutral king then lose their prince.

I was not aware, thanks for the information.

it is very weak right now, this would make ti better as you can target confirmed blue dragon classes; you can’t quite target a confirmed unseen member, as they are probably being executed now.

I disagree, please provide your reasoning.

Better in unseen games than cult

clearly a joke

#4

I edited my post because can’t be bothered with your quoting BS.

#5

Okay Plex and Rope seriously just stop being dicks to each other it is tiring. He has at least 1 good idea here Plex stop with the hate please.

  1. YES. King is kinda Underpowered atm, I agree this is not bad and I think the ToL Devs are doing some work on King

  2. Already happened :slight_smile:

  3. This is basically just the Court Wizards second Night Ability…I think it is fine as it is.

  4. I think Alchemist needs a rework a bit but making him convertible might screw him over too much,

  5. I think Phycican is fine, it is not really an issue in my opinion.

  6. :smiley:

1 is a good idea. 4 is not bad. Rest are not that good ideas.

#6

No hate here… literally, stop trying to stir drama just because you think there’s hate.

#7

Every single one of his threads you immediately shoot down giving hardly any reasons. You have never once said anything nice about any of his ideas. Don’t treat me, and everyone else, like an idiot, by lying and saying you clearly don’t like him.

#8

Hardly any reasons? Read my post. Then tell me there are hardly any reasons. Because the reasons I’ve posted, match that of most of your reasons.

#9

You edited it. :slight_smile:

I am not trying to cause anything and obviously I’m coming from this from an outsider perspective but at times you are being oddly-passive aggressive towards him which is unlike you.

#10

He does disagree fundamentally with me on other things (posting journals), so it is not unimaginable that he actually disagrees.

That being said, he doesn’t generally provide good reasons, he mostly just says “No.” or “seriously?” or something along the lines of “really? your suggesting THAT? your stupid.”

Plex’s main hate of me started when I suggested the brotherhood (an admittedly horrible suggestion), he had already had suggested the brotherhood and had it in FoL and told me to change it, then I say no and that FoL sounds stupid.

I’m not including the multi-accounting on discord, because he didn’t know I was the same person until after.

#11

Alright, I’m not going to let this one slide. I want you to go through every post I’ve ever made and find a quote of me saying those words. I will wait.

#12

I said “along the lines of”. It is clearly an embellishment/exaggeration, I am just showing that you say “you are wrong” without provide sufficient reasoning even when I have.

#13

Oh look… an entire post of mine that lacks description…

#14

Munches popcorn

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#15

Yes, this one has detail. Almost all of mine have reasons, yours don’t often do. one example doesn’t mean anything among hundreds of others.

#16

no, royal finger is weak. An election takes place immediately after, which you can’t even change with abilities, so your changing the vote means nothing if those who didn’t accuse just pardon.

I don’t understand this, please explain better. “Being less specific” what?

Just because it must survive on it’s own does not mean it should not be convertible. I want to just create a challenge for them; it is currently easier to win as neut king then alchemist (in my experience)

It does, because either physician has the ability to heal in a game that has few deaths at night or the ability to heal in games with lots of deaths at night and prevent the assassin from poisoning others, which is a core part of the unseen.

great job elaborating.

#17

So to increase Alchemist’s survivablity you want to make him convertible, making him far more likely to be lynched by BD :thinking:

#18

Being less specific? I almost feel like you didn’t even read what.

Hippo, that’s the smartest thing you’ve said since I met you, props.

You said it was a joke, I didn’t need to elaborate.

#19

I misspoke, meant to say easier as alchemist.

#20

I read your thing. you kept saying that making the ability less specific was bad, but you never explain what “being less specific” means as it makes no sense in the context.