Chloe fan club (but only FM related) (formerly initiative to improve townplay thread) 😹

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#1823

Not until individuals start taking responsibility and improve

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#1824

I believe what mole meant to say was “not with that attitude they won’t”

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#1825

that’s not happening

#1826

Kinda.

My view of WoW fm was that as a whole, town was OK. It was just individuals dragged down the average of town so much.

#1827

we haven’t had a single game where everyone has tried

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#1828

do I think that’s going to change?
NOPE

#1829

I think we need to start making setups townsided

#1830

So you mean like FOL2/3 lol

#1831

We also need to stop adding NKs to setups

#1832

last time i did that you yelled at me

#1833

That rand wasn’t townsided, it was broken

#1834

how else would town win

#1835

Most of the town wins on this site must be from scum conceding
And the times when a setup isn’t absurdly crumbling scum stomps
So we need to find a middle ground

If there was a scale of 1 > 10, with 1 being ultra scumsided and 10 being ultra townsided

We need to start making setups a 6.5 > 7

#1836

i might be wrong here (pinging @arete to verify since they’re more of a setup balance nerd)

but like

so lets say a setup is a 3

since town is the majority, town have a higher chance of winning a 3 (-2) than scum have a chance of winning a 7 (+2)

i think

#1837

I have no idea what you’re saying

#1838

okay

i think town have a higher chance of winning a scumsided setup than scum have winning a townsided setup

although this is assuming that the sidedness of a setup is objective, which it isn’t

so shrug

#1839

i actually remember reading an article on MU about balancing games

and it mentioned how a game considered balanced on MU is vastly different to a game considered balanced on a site like MS

the examples given made it sound like MS needed to run more townsided setups for town to have a chance

which is probably a thing that applies here lol

#1840

I think Kyo’s numbers are pretty arbitrary here

like it’s not like a 4 on Kyo’s scale corresponds to a specific amount of scumsidedness

it’s just

a 4

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#1841

i might be forgetting some games

but im p sure that generally this site does fine in vanilla games

granted i can only think of 4

#1842

I suggest we replace a vanilla role in every vanilla setup with a desperado to start making things townsided more