I mean it’s fun for the player
prob not the people getting screwed over by alch
Make it “or”.
Physician OR Chronomancer in a game. I think it should spice up the variety, the evils are going to use different tactics if they face vs a phys or a chrono…
I would prefer your idea, where both classes COULD spawn but only one is a guaranteed kill-delayer
Make this Neutral and replace Alch with it and you have a yes from me.
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Sheriff is boring, but it’s more fun than phys(paladin is a different issue, paladin needs a rework. IMO both sheriff and paladin should just be combined) and doesn’t appear as often. There should just be a lower chance of getting the same class multiple times in a row, that would solve the issue of boring classes. Phys is fine now that exhume is back, the only issue with it is that it’s too common.
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I voted no immediately because replacing a class is a terrible idea. Why are you guys always so eager to remove content?
Physician is literally fine, you just buffed it in today’s patch. It’s one of my favourite classes, and im not alone. The assertion that people don’t enjoy helping is flat out wrong. People complain about being given responsibility (king, mastermind, cultleader, etc) far more than being given a helpful support class. Physician is powerful, useful and most importantly, easy to fake claim as an evil role.
Add chronomancer if you like, but don’t replace anything. Replacing is an utterly terrible idea.
And the bottom line is, this game needs more content. When you take into account the classes that frequently appear (ie, not the unseen conversions) it has far less class variety than town of salem. More variety is desperately needed, and replacing one with another is not a step forward. And don’t replace alchemist either.
Add chronomancer+timestealer as entirely new classes. Leave physician as it is, we can have both. Don’t remove or replace anything
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I’ll complain about it now then. Sheriff is boring as hell, especially since the removal of the old surveillance ability
There’s a class that needs more reworking. Finding an absolute result is bland and hardly deduction at all. Playing drunk, observer or princess is far more interesting for investigative gameplay, since you get clues that you can piece together
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Agreed, but the old surveillance was very overpowered. It should never be brought back, at least not in its old form
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I was excited about this until I saw it was a proposal to replace instead of add a class.
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Town Of Salem has more classes because their classes do a lot less.
People are constantly complaining about Physician, so I wanted to see if there was actually interest for replacing it with a different class.
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Sheriff could have a simple buff to be able to communicate easier. If a sheriff got the exact role of the unseen member, rather than having to spend 2 nights to get this information, it would make the class more interesting. Alternatively, the sheriff and paladin could have a way to communicate directly with the king. For example, one night per game, they could have the ability to reveal their results to the king instead of themselves. This could only reveal a bd/neut, but it may give an evil king info on the assassin or cl.
I think the similarities between phys and doc from ToS has lead people to feel they are underpowered or boring compared to other similar classes like sheriffs. ToL has done a brilliant job of giving every class a useful set of multiple abilities, compared to ToS’s one ability per class (and usually only a night ability), however the doctor and phys are basically the same
The only complaints i hear about physician are its frequency, because it is such a common class. Any class will feel boring if you get it constantly
You could fix those complaints by adjusting the various weights. It seems like a variety of BD classes are less common, like mystic, noble, knight, observer and hunter. I feel like i never see all of these in one game and they are the more interesting of the BD roles
Make those classes more common, and remove unique limits from them all too. That’ll solve any complaints about physician (Imo, only leader classes + prince should be unique)
Adding in the chronomancer as well, as another BD or neutral class with a reasonably average weight, will help plenty too
Just please please pleeease don’t remove anymore classes. I feel like i’ve seen more content removed than added since i started playing
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Okay the issue with making Physician less common is that that buffs scum because they can more freely bleed…
On second thought, this is a good idea as long as Alchemist’s spawnrate is dropped too
People are constantly complaining about Physician but it’s nothing to do with the Physician itself and everything to do with how undervalued the class is next to an unconvertible healer with access to night immunity and a killing ability.
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I definitely agree that Alchemist being straight-up better is a part of the problem.
Not to mention that Alchemist being so good is already a bit of a problem imo
Not sure what exactly I’d change to fix it just yet
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And death knight
Neutral king is all but gone