[Class Rework] Marshal

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#1

The Marshal :shield:

Unseen Investigator

Day Ability 1: Besmirch If targeted player is executed today, they will appear as chosen class. You will know what class they really were. Can be used on yourself and Unseen.( 2 or 1 use(s) )

Night Ability 1: Intercept - Select two targets, if anyone targets your first target the will receive feedback as if they targeted the second.(infinite)
Night Ability 2: Probe - Determine a player’s class if they can be converted, including if calm minded or empowered.( 3 uses)

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#2

While these abilities seem cool, they don’t really fit the theme of the class tbh.

if you really want make a cool BD class then make this a unseen version and then I’ll accept it :stuck_out_tongue:

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#3

Reminding me, marshal day ability should be a passive. Too weak for it not to be plus it’s conditional anyway

#4

I like this, but it doesn’t really fit the theme of the class.

Again, this is fine but doesn’t fit the theme

Why did you just nerf probe? Probe is balanced, it needs a buff if anything

#5

Plus it seems like another Foresight

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#6

Actually make a new class I want to see what you come up with.

#7

For some reason I just thought of a neutral who could bind the fate of one person to another :thinking:

throwing ideas out there for y’all

#8

Which is already weak

#9

same I thought of making a class called Heretic but I have no idea what the bd class cardinal should be
any suggestions?

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#10

Whispers BD joat into your ear

#11

This ability doesn’t seem like something an investigative class would do (information manipulation) even if Duchess has dark wisp. It would be better suited on a social/support class.

It also wouldn’t work correctly with butler/drunk (certain), and probably not with other classes (uncertain).

For example, butler targets 3.
Marshal selects butler and 8.

Butler gets feedback telling them they successfully occupied 8, with out any ‘redirected’ feedback telling them why that happened. This proves the existence of converted sheriff mechanically.

Probe doesn’t need a nerf, given that Nightwatch has exact class determining abilities (WC).

Extremely OP. Can be used to confirm unseen and to effectively frame bd. The weakness of Scorned’s disguising ability is that it few effective uses, while having to predict who will be hung the next day. It’s unreliable.

Besmirch can effectively (and efficiently as it is a day ability) eliminate the downsides of making aggressive plays as unseen while also allowing them to unconfirm investigative BD classes.

#12

yes but used incorrectly could have a dire effect if someone was basically confirmed unseen and turned out to be “bd” then that would make the sheriff claim especially suspicious, used incorrectly if can have grave consequences leading to 2 unseen get lynched, but if the player using it is very skilled they can practically fool bd.

#13

You mean Unseen doesn’t need a second foresight?

#14

You got a point there. If unseen, this ability could out yourself when mistimed. But so can an improper defile while being a phys claim. It shares a similar issue that defile, but is also far more applicable in its usage. The real problem with Besmirch is it being a day ability, and therefore it can be used as a reaction, which requires significantly less thought to use with an incredibly strong effect to boot.

The offensive potential of this is still ridiculous.

In the end, Besmirch would make a really good night ability, for a different class. I’d suggest incorporating this into a support unseen class. I don’t know what that would look like, but Besmirch would make a very interesting ability if that were to exist.

#15

true, I will put this idea on board as I am thinking of doing a social class version of this but I wanted to come up with results first on what everyone thought this since I couldn’t think of the bd version