[Class Suggestion] The Retainer - The Vassal

Ooh, new royal blood Unseen class. I approve :smile:

I think these are my favorite class suggestions of yours so far, Plex. Simple, but interesting and effective.

Personal Escort…what if escorting somebody allowed them to break through a Merc/CW wall as well? It’s slightly weak on its own. Could be interesting. I would personally use Personal Vouch for the first couple nights as to not accidentally give the Assassin/MM occupy immunity.

Sometimes simplicity is underrated and I think these two classes highlight the beauty that can come from it.

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Yeah, I feel like Unseen needed a little more Royalty :wink:

Personal Escort could get that little bit of umf honestly, I considered that while writing it.

And yeah, Simplicity. Gotta love it.

Do you not think the vote manipulation abilities fall to heavily into a Social class and are out of place for a Support?

Same could be said about Merc and Alchemist with abilities to kill

I was torn between removing Overwatch or letting is be a very mellow Princess Wisp that just tells you who visited you. I’m still thinking about altering it.

how does the double vote thing work (when does it trigger)?

Also, there is no real need for more unseen royals. The only class that has royal blood and can’t be converted is prince, and prince hardly ever steps up unless he has no executions.

If you are going to suggest a royal class, please add the note that it is only available in games without nobles or games with a certain amount of players; this is because the more royal classes, the less good royal blood is.

I don’t think you’ve read it, otherwise you wouldn’t need to ask. I’ve spoken to Alfa, Ruby and Tryphon in private messages about this Class and they’ve not once asked that question.

There’s never enough.

last time I had looked, you did not have the middle ability there.

Really? Because this says differently:

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/class-suggestion-the-retainer-the-vassal/2533/13?u=theplex

Here is you, commenting on said abilities.

Vouch+Jury were added at the exact same time, 18 hours ago. The same time that you asked about Jury.

I SAID MIDDLE ABILITY.

you had jury, then added another ability.

And like I said…

You said it wasn’t there before but clearly you didn’t read it properly because Jury and Vouch were added at the exact same time.

Ladies and gentleman of the jury, I’d like to present a piece of evidence that I believe to be crucial in this proceeding.

An unedited affidavit 15 hours before Rope’s comment!!!

So concludes quite possibly the most mundane argument I have ever seen. GG.

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What argument? There was no argument involved in the Class. At least, Jury might cause some in a game.

The one you just had with Rope about the time you posted… :rofl:

Also Plex your screenshot has convinced me that dark theme looks pretty cool so I’m converting. Congrats.

Oh wait no it’s disgusting my bad. The blue and black clashes so bad shudders.

I don’t quite understand the synergy between Personal Escort and the voting ability. It almost seems like you put a few separate ability ideas together. Do you mind explaining your thought process on that?

for thematic purposes, perhaps the retainer can only step up for the title of king if all but one royals are dead?

Observer has the ability to see who visits and who they visit and see somebodies faction.
Princess has the ability to check someone’s class type and reveal people who visits her.

Synergy isn’t exactly a huge deal in this game :wink:

But in my mind, “Personal” came to mind. Personally escorting somebody and Personally voting somebody.

Not even going into it.

you should make thee vassal the “chauffeur.” For both, personal escort makes observer see “your target left with a chauffeur”, makes them immune to being occupied that night, allows them to bypass ice ward, and allows them to bypass the mercenary’s/sell sword’s stand guard/stonewall.

Also, life-link is kind of weird.