Alright you clearly saw where I was going
It’s literally copy-pasted from CW and should act the same for simplicity’s sake.
Ok but swap it’s uses with frame. It’s kinda broken to have hidden swaps on an unlimited use ability
Literally impossible in ToL
But Ici frame exists and is infinite shot
listen. You’re acting like the BD won’t catch on to who the scorned is pretty quickly after they get the first or second required mislynch.
here’s the better goal
You win if you see 5 public executions while you are alive.
you nerf the faction check to 1 use and BLAMMO
it’d be a good goal in FoL but not in ToL
How about you have to see a specific target hung?
Because there was literally nothing wrong with the old scorned.
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the reason for the change is because old scorned was too easy (and honestly I agree, getting one mislynch really isn’t hard) and because people want neuts to be more neutral
just swing scorned around to have 2 BD executed (or 5 of any kind) and it’d be fine. trying to predict who the sheriff and palaidn peek is actually super hard
2 BD executed is just as easy as one specific one tbh. Most games there will be one mislynch naturally or from scum plays anyway.
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and I wish stalk had been like Obs’ Follow because there is literally no class that can fake an Obs claim
Ok but 3 mislynches or standard Neutral Evil wincon is perfectly attainable.
2 mislynches is way too easy - 1 mislynch is uaually a given and adding another one is not hard at all
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incorrect. If you’'re trying to CAUSE those mislynches you’d be extremely lucky to get the frame and the trollbox/direct accusation needed to win the game.
It’s literally fucking luck-based in a game without high-fidelity reads
like you could get one mislynch given but then you’d enter the world of “i WONDER WHO THE INVESTS WILL TARGET AND REMEMBER THERE’S ONLY ACTUALLY 2 THAT I CAN GET AN ACTUAL FALSE GUILTY ON RELIABLY AND THEY MIGHT BOTH BE DEAD AT THAT POINT”. You’re really overestimating how often Scorned and Fool actually use their frames to get guilties.
Frames + swaps plus the third one is usually going to require you to take action during the day yourself
Wait I actually like the new scorned. The main issue with the old one(and yours) is that it was too anti-BD. We need more true neutrals, not just “anti-X”. The only changes that the current one needs are changing frame(and deceive) so it causes visitors to receive incorrect feedback from their abilities, replacing stalk with mind warp, buffing trollbox so it can also affect whispers, and maybe giving scorned political pressure as a day ability(not sure how many uses it should have though)
Again, that’s too anti-BD. We need more true neutrals in the game. If the current win condition is too easy then it could be increased to 5.
2 BD is too easy. And there are enough anti-X neuts.
you’'re acting like framing is a reliable ability that actually is gaurenteed to work once per game