wait yeah
In fact, in v/v situations wolves usually donāt care either way to change anything.
Yeah, Light phrased it as if I didnāt care between two villager wagons, so Iām confused a bit.
which is why i think amiās vote was just there to exist
no further motivation
the reason i think itās wolfy is because she tried to vote kyoās way so that people wouldnāt hate the vote
Why on the last second though in your opinion? I feel like at that point itās way more likely for a wolf to just sit out and do nothing, imo at least. (since again, it brings a lot of attention)
doesnāt apply if kyo is a wolf, but i donāt think he is, given how heās been playing and how he handled last eod
thatās a good question
iām not sure
From EoD I think I got Kyo as a villager now.
With that wagon situation he probably doesnāt care to push TL the way he did, and he did seem to have real conviction and make reasoning that was consistent with that worldview on the fly.
Also that reminded me of I think one of Zoneās games where Kyo as villager played very aggressively at EoD specifically for whatever reason (Iām just not sure he really would do something like that as scum)
He and Mistyx were the people I was pretty sure were villa based on EoD, but rip Misty.
i expected to be called stupid for not understanding for some reason when i saw the ping
Calling you scummy for coming back to the (questionable) majora wagon a few times then hiding out in a nonwagon i guess
Ill try and speak more on this after sleep
I probably would want to look into Arctic/Gorta/PKR today, likely ISO at some point. (I think each had stuff that was at least questionable to an extent).
Also Iām thinking I might want to lynch TL still.
perhaps the most important part
so um
gorta has two counterwagon options, sometimes three or four, but ends on eli who he townread before just because other people were voting eli
in fact heās more hesitant to vote majora than eli despite nullreading majora and townreading eli
he also sheeps the vote on tl despite having no read on tl
iām not sure if this is heat of the moment, mafia who forgot their progression or town with terrible progression
it feels like gorta had no stake in the eod and didnāt care about his vote so he just sheeped
which is consistent with wagons being mostly on villagers because then a wolf could screw around with their vote
i feel like town gorta would at least care enough during eod to not vote his village read just because other people were voting them. just vote majora, who you nullread, over eli, who you townread
overall i think gortaās perspective is a bit scummy
could still come from incoherent town, but i donāt like the fact he didnāt seem to have agency during eod, when we wagoned mostly villagers from the looks of it
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this is different from ami because ami just voted once at a point when it brought her some attention (i can agree with astand on that point), meanwhile gorta kept following the consensus with his votes to the point of voting his townread because it became more consensus to vote them, thus garnering less attention outside of the progression flaw
An unusual question to TL, but how did you know you were getting CFDed exactly and not just wagoned.
If we consider you just woke up after not posting for a while. (about 8 hours, so thereād be a huge amount of posts you missed).
I assume you werenāt aware of anything that happened in that period and just went straight to posting/interacting?
Iām just not sure if that level of awareness makes sense for the situation.
Also now that I check his posts, other than the claim, TL did nothing at all that EoD. (and nothing today still, but hey).
Btw I did put Vulgard into obvious town category alongside Centuries (who are the only two there so far).
I donāt really believe he has it in him to be making posts like these (and ones before, too) as scum.
So congrats.
Apologies for the delay, was in the middle of a DBD match 
Note the progression in the sentences. TL -> Non-commital vote on Eli -> Main wagons were T/T
Iām actually kinda curious how you came to the conclusion that I was talking about TL.
Like, Iām physically aware of how the mistake can be made, but itās quite obvious that, given a few moments of thought, that wasnāt a scumslip.
Very simple, you said I was āhoppingā between wagons (TL and Eli, even though I donāt think I was really unclear in why I was changing votes, and why commitance as opposed to changing anything is in any way town indicative anyway) = I wasnāt commital between them + āWagons were V/Vā.
But otherwise I donāt really get the point you were making.
I never really said that was and I donāt believe in scumslips in general, I wanted you to clarify what you meant.
I donāt either? Iām sorry if I phrased it weirdly, but I wasnāt talking about TL in that last bit.