Court Wizard Rework [orangeandblack5 Edition] - Level 1

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#1

I will be throwing out a few suggestions, but this first one is something I had implemented in my “Some Ideas” megathread a month or so ago, and it is also in the class cards for SFoL18. I believe that the Court Wizard is already a strong role with a solid set of uses and a high skill ceiling, so my first suggestion keeps it relatively the same as it already is.

The Court Wizard

Blue Dragon Support
Empower Spell (Day) - Your night abilities will be stronger tonight. (2 uses)
Magical Barrier (Night) - Protect a player from negative effects and conversion tonight. Does not prevent attacks. If empowered, prevents all others from visiting your target’s room. (Infinite uses)
Tornado (Night) - Swap two players’ positions, causing all players targeting one of them to target the other. If empowered, bypasses redirection immunity. (3 uses)
Defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

Converts into The Sage.

The Sage

Unseen Offensive
Dark Rune (Day) - If your target uses a day ability today, they will target themself (1 use)
Shock (Day) - If your target uses a night ability tonight, they will target themself - (1 use)
Tornado (Night) - Swap two players’ positions, causing all players targeting one of them to target the other. (Infinite uses)
Wall of Fire (Night) - Prevent all visits except that of The Assassin from affecting your target. (2 Uses)
Your objective is to Eliminate the Blue Dragon and any Neutrals who stand against you

Astute readers may notice that my added day ability is similar in origin to RawkHawk’s, and I would also be more than happy to see his implemented in lieu of this if we’re sticking to minor changes. We have very similar views on the Court Wizard’s current place in the game, and although I prefer the high skill ceiling of Tornado to his Magical Doorway I can definitely see where he is coming from. Deflections definitely have less potential to screw with your team than swaps, and I can see how that will be an appealing change to the masses of more casual Throne of Lies players. Given that, the best result may come from mashing together our two ideas, leading to the following:

The Court Wizard

Blue Dragon Support
Empower Spell (Day) - Your night abilities will be stronger tonight. (2 uses)
Magical Barrier (Night) - Protect a player from negative effects and conversion tonight. Does not prevent attacks. If empowered, prevents all others from visiting your target’s room. (Infinite uses)
Tornado (Night) - All visits to a single target will be redirected to another target of choice. Can’t target self or King. If empowered, bypasses redirection immunity. (2 uses)
Defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

Converts into The Sage.

The Sage

Unseen Offensive
Dark Rune (Day) - If your target uses a day ability today, they will target themself (1 use)
Shock (Day) - If your target uses a night ability tonight, they will target themself - (1 use)
Tornado (Night) - All visits to a single target will be redirected to another target of choice. Can’t target self or King. (Infinite uses)
Wall of Fire (Night) - Prevent all visits except that of The Assassin from affecting your target. (2 Uses)
Your objective is to Eliminate the Blue Dragon and any Neutrals who stand against you

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#2

Wats different?

#3

Awesome all visits meaning bypassing redirection immunity obv!

#4

This basically has all the problems the current CW has.

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#5

Note the “Level 1” in the title :wink:

Although I’d argue that most of the CW’s “issues” aren’t really issues with the class at all, but more so with players misusing it.

#6

Personally I think it would be a good Transporter/Bus Driver.

Magic Barrier is weak and frames your allies.

#7

I better see a
Skip between 2 and make it 3…

Don’t ask me why

I really just hate the number 2

#8

This should tell you what effects it prevents. If empowered, it should tell you who tries to visit instead. One of the main issues with court wizard is that it’s obring.

This should just bypass redirection immunity normally.

Everything else is fine.

#9

Observer what

#10

Would
Love to see what happens when the cw brings a occupier to him!!!

Wonder why it doesn’t bypass redirection
Sarcasm is a great thing the humans have developed

#11

Maybe I am missing the application of dark rune, but it seems like it will only be useful very rarely. Most bd don’t have day abilities. Sheriff having scout target him is useless since no one will be converted anyway. Noble will vote for himself which could have fringe late game utility. Butler could poison himself. Mystic would be unaffected, physician would be self targeted. It would be humorous for the prince to jail himself, though.

I feel your first suggesting doesn’t change enough about court wizard, however I personally agree cw doesn’t really need a change, but I think this extends more towards it might be more interesting to build a new support bd that we can properly base around the swapping ability, and adjust like that. I don’t think conversion preventing and target swapping should be paired together.

#12

that’s literally it tbqh

Also that’s just an old Sage/CW ability I brought back because

#13

Prince doesn’t hear the prisoner Talking

So he executes himself

#14

What happens if he king decide fate

Rip evil king

#15

Why not just give sage the empowered tornado as well? Not sure what an empowered fire wall would do, but I don’t think it needs to do anything. Maybe give players false feedback if they visited the target?

#16

oh shoot it was supposed to have that by default

also empower day ability for sage is kinda meh because it literally does nothing

#17

Well prince would be jailed, thus occupied for the night. He couldn’t kill himself.

#18

No.

Prince is occupy immune even to happy hour get rekt

The prince will be talking to himself

#19

wait

no

because it has infinite tornadoes atm

you don’t want them all to pierce immunity

Which is stronger - infinite Tornadoes, or two that pierce immunity?

#20

The nuke