CW number 1 sounds the most fun
I seriously don’t get why you would think that 1 is more fun than 3.
CW 3 is simply stronger than 1 in nearly every way and is less confusing.
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I think 1 is op if prince claims though people say it wouldnt be cause whisp meta will end.
3 Is very strong if good player uses it. So its between 2 and 4 for me.
Teleport feels boring especially when you have nado.
So im going with 4.
Umm… Why does your statement about 3 make it not an option? Classes should be strong if used by a good player, that’s called a high skill ceiling and it’s a good thing.
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Id have to say this looks very unfun to play.
Makes MM finding very easy, MM cant claim anything because if he is sus at all, heres a siphon and oh hes claiming butler? King OE, the only thing MM can claim now is Princess or Sherrif.
Mimic just makes it so that you can make prince even more swol with prince voltron meta, not to mention shutting down the ability to kill any healer for 2 nights just for fucks.
Empower is basically just a fuck you evils, making prince death immune makes it so that ONLY reaper can kill him, the Investigative one basically is a screw you even more, ruining any ability you might use to decide to anticipate an investigate just saying NO IM CW, YOU CANT HIDE NO MATTER WHAT, Support redirect immune is even stupider, lets make it so that ritualist/sage cant swap-kill just for fun and make guarded targets even harder to kill, Making someone conversion immune is literally just a worse CW magic barrier, Special-Nothing again makes it another easy MM radar.
Tornado bypassing redirection immunity is also what i would say is stupid, Oh, im one fourth of the redirection based classes, lets just make it so that mechanic doesnt work anymore for one out of four classes. this would be fine, its like happy hour i get it, but why diminish the value of drunks by making it so that only they can go through immunities to screw with someone?
In my opinion this rework is horrible, diminishing the value of drunks HH and deb, making it so that CW can easily confirm someone, screwing with all other classes abilities by making it so they can bypass their counters by evils, the ability to just make someone unable to die for a few days, be immune for awhile, all while not being unique making it so that 2 CWs is an insta-win.
Drunk is already powerful.
Sage is my fav class if he redirects someone oh well
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It looks like you only looked at Option 1
There are 3 others
How do you feel about them?
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Teleport seems pretty ok, making CW into a valuable guarder while also being able to confirm physicians unless they are NK with “selfcare tonight”
on a general principle I dont like things bypassing immunity but this feels like a good edition to the kit already because of teleport with the torn, my main issue on it for 1 was that it added to that already broken kit.
Generic empower feels a bit stupid, making 1/2 of ritualists/fools/scorneds kit useless
If anything swap the uses of tornado, remove the redirection immunity clause, and make empower 2 uses only so that a CW cant just choose to destroy the ability to frame/hide from invests.
4 feels like the normal cw with a small rework with Ice Ward, an easy confirm tool though I do like that MB lasts until the day.
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Exactly, I want him to have a generally unique kit with the ability to bypass occ immunites on key targets.
@Firelitten
And at the end of all this?
You think Bd can actually cooperate to do this?
Dont balance around people being stupid, balance around how the game can work.
Sage is my fav class if he redirects someone oh well
Yes, sage is cool and has a fun kit
Prince meta is countered by reaper and sorc circle of death
No, there are a ton of counters to it this just cuts them all down by a landside.
Trapper
Rit/Sage swap
Poss throwing important BDs at him
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Wall of Fire
Reap
CoD
Aristo/Apost getting key info
Lies
I seen a mastermind win claiming mystic
How, thought fool?
Huh thanks for reinforcing my point on things countering him
Thanks for saving me work
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Wall of Fire <---------
Reap
CoD
Aristo/Apost getting key info