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[Chloe]

@Prophylaxis for future reference
you can make a table like this (i added some **bold** formatting just for the hell of it but):

**Column A** | **Column B** | **Column C**
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**Row 1** | awdawd | awdawd
**Row 2** | awdawd | awdawd
**Row 3** | awdawd | awdawd

Column A	Column B	Column C
Row 1	awdawd	awdawd
Row 2	awdawd	awdawd
Row 3	awdawd	awdawd

[Aelin]

Sorry I’ve been so inactive today
But that’s alright…

[Chloe]

@Prophylaxis

Now yeah, I can see this being sort of a w/w interaction? The thing that’s concerning to me is how much it reads like Helz is throwing a lifeline to a struggling scum buddy to give them chances to re-engage with the thread.

Ehh.

Actually now that I read the post again I’m not so sure about that since Blitz literally said that they were “struggling to jump in”. I do feel like Helz would have shaded this slot a little more if Blitz were v but that’s like the thinnest of reads. So yeah, I thought this post was potentially indicative of Blitz scum but now I’m not so sure.

The thing that sorta worries me regarding Blitz is the fact that Helz honed in on exactly Lukundo to shade and discredit for the attempted Wisp push - when Blitz is a much easier target, and also had an odd swap to PKR towards the end of the day - alongside Wisp

The only thing that gives me pause when I think about this is that Helz also ignored Aelin as well. Maybe the fact that Aelin and Wisp were in a hood contributed to Helz not pushing hard for Aelin’s elim instead of Luk
I dunno
I’m just getting cold feet on my townread of Blitz and weh
wehwehweh
i dont wanna be wrong on him - and i should really just prioritize trying to figure the guy out but brain says ‘no. play videogames instead.’
halp

@Prophylaxis

Not really sure if this is Helz TMIing Zone as town here or if he’s trying to cover up/hard townread one of his buddies - the way he’s wording this is pretty flat and by the book?

@Prophylaxis

Pretty similar to Zone tbh, just digging into individual posts of theirs to townread them. If anyone else would like to weigh in on these specific posts/interactions, feel free - I just think they read as pretty flat.

Commenting on these just to say that I can’t milk anything useful out of them either

@Prophylaxis

I think Helz was super comfortable with where the game was going prior to D3 and his reactions to Wind/Chloe on this page feel like him melting down in real time

i honestly feel really bad. my slot was a ML in the making and i just came in like ‘no fuck that’
i’d feel like crap in his position >.>

@Prophylaxis

I think Chloe mentioned something about her rescinding the townslips/derptell reads based on reading Helz’s manifesto or something, and I think I’m inclined to do something similar?

yes he puts stock in fake townslips which gave me some paranoia about the points i awarded to both lemon and nika (lemon especially, since helz was the first to jump and say that it felt like a townslip. makes me mrrrrr a lot)

@Prophylaxis

Merc is also very likely town due to the stuff on Day 1 but he kinda shifted focus off of her after Day 1.

I’d like to add on a slight bit of level-0 VCA to this, but the fact that after the false EoD he jumped onto Merc’s wagon when the wagons were 5-4-4 (5 being on Merc) and he could very well have shuttled votes elsewhere (Tilga or Blitz) with the thread control he had, and the fact that he was manipulating Wind, makes me inclined to believe Merc is a villager. Considering how he reacted to the attempt to CFD to Wisp at EoD1 i heavily doubt he would… contribute to a CFD on a different partner on d2

[Aelin]

Right now, I’m looking at potential worlds

Whysper W

We can assume maybe 5 or 6 total wolves, right? Or maybe four wolves and an arso or something?
Three wolves dead

Potential wolves in this world based on Whysper Spew™
Zone
Nika
min

Blitz

Windward (unlikely because of tunnel on guillo slot but still not impossible due to Wind having a history of bussing, plus the Wind/Zone night action debacle)
and some paranoia on wisdom and chloe

Whysper V

not really sure why I’m doing this
thought experiment I guess

Zone
Lemon

Wind

Nika

A bit of suspicion on Lukundo specifically if Lemon is scum but should be evaluated if so
A small amount of suspicion on Proph, although their cases have been pretty solid so really just should reread if Whysper is somehow actually V

i managed to find a post at the end of all this saying nika replaced out so replace all of “nika” with smallworldz

[min]

Both of these lists are practically the same besides a few lll

[Chloe]

@Aelin

A bit of suspicion on Lukundo specifically if Lemon is scum but should be evaluated if so

Expand?

@Aelin

A small amount of suspicion on Proph, although their cases have been pretty solid so really just should reread if Whysper is somehow actually V

Expand on this as well pls

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i guess i should do a little solving for a v!whysper world just in case huh
laziness consumes me tho
i’ll do it later =P

[min]

Hi linny

[min]

Now bye as I’m gonna go watch more tv

[Aelin]

Hullo

[Aelin]

[Aelin]

@Chloe

@Aelin

A bit of suspicion on Lukundo specifically if Lemon is scum but should be evaluated if so

Expand?

Night action
Talked Whysper out of killblocking Lemon
Plus potential of TMI’ing Whysper V in this world

@Chloe

@Aelin

A small amount of suspicion on Proph, although their cases have been pretty solid so really just should reread if Whysper is somehow actually V

Expand on this as well pls

Just because of how hard Proph is pushing to get Whysper killed
it’s literally just “look at their case again if it was wrong”

[Whysper]

@WindwardAway

Also, either way Whysper flips, it’s worth considering her interactions with Zone and Nikamara as I think they hold the most weight right now from what I can see. It’s also worth considering she had Lemonfairy as her top scumread, and voted Lemonfairy, but I saw basically no interaction between them, which looks like distancing imo.

When I flip V, definitely look at both Zone and Lemon as likely wolves. I feel that Zone is using a sort of gimmick where he is pretending to be somewhat limited in focus and pushy so that his interactions don’t say much. People just take it as his personality. He’s also doing this thing of demanding that people wagon him almost as a reverse-psychology to keep people from actually doing it.

As for Lemon, I think they are avoiding interacting with me or casing me. First, no point since they know there’s nothing there to be found. Second, they don’t want a strong association with the MLing of a villager.

I was rethinking Nika’s slot. Maybe they actually are villager. Even though they are bringing up lots of NAI points (child code, my speculation on V/V wagons, etc.) and overall the case isn’t as good as people seem to be assuming just from the “feel” of it, I think it would be pointless for a wolf to do it. I mean, I suppose it could be for gaining town cred in seeming to help solve? Maybe. But seems like it might be better to focus on other targets for the future.

[Whysper]

@Aelin

A bit of suspicion on Lukundo specifically if Lemon is scum but should be evaluated if so
A small amount of suspicion on Proph, although their cases have been pretty solid so really just should reread if Whysper is somehow actually V

Overall I still feel that Luk is villager. From both this thread and from my sync chat with him.

Something I should mention before I’m gone in case it matters. When our sync chat was first created, Luk immediately posted to save SDA. He misread our role ability as blocking a kill on someone instead of blocking someone from doing a killing action. That seemed real-time genuine.

[Whysper]

I didn’t see anywhere where Luk tried to take credit for that, either. So I think it was real.

[Whysper]

If anyone has questions for me regarding Luk in our sync chat, let me know.

[Chloe]

hi whysper!!

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im heading to bed
45 more posts until we hit 10k and things get fucky wucky
not looking forward to that at all lol

gn frens

[Whysper]

Good night, Chloe

[Aelin]

Sleep well!

ahem
Royal decree to make my posts useful until we get to 10k

uh
today has been boring™
it’s kinda weird how dead everything has been despite two decently high wagons? with 4 on Whysper with Chleb being there in spirit and the CW not even pressing on them
and then 3 on lemon but it’s just
nothing’s going on there
idk how i feel about it

[Prophylaxis]

I hate that I’m scumreading you mainly on the basis of Guill interactions, because I really like this post. Like, I’d expect scum to try and shade the rest of the PoE, but you’re putting critical thought into every one of these reads - you’re even re-evaluating Nika, who kinda just cased you on her way out.

Aaaaaaaaaaaa

[Whysper]

At this point I think it’s probably fine to have my slot resolved. The Guill interactions are going to stick there no matter what I do now. And my flip will help with a few interactions to move things forward.

Again, if Luk is at all in doubt to anyone, please ask me anything about my sync chat with him since that gets lost when I’m gone. I don’t know that there’s much more than what we already explained earlier and then what I brought up about him submitting the action to save SDA before he understood our role, but do ask in case I kind of overlooked something.