L-2 I think
I’m not bothering to place a vote yet, either tbh
something like 5 hours left till EoD and I’m just gonna go to sleep. I’ll let Chloe finish her stuff at the very least so people don’t cut her off before she’s done giving her reasons for her townreads.
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Eh I came back to say one more thing.
I don’t really need to give legacy reads because I already gave my readlist and my final verdict on yeet order. I just have one more thing to add
I highly suspect Lemonfairy is lying about being VT. I know she wasn’t synced N1 because the masons attempted to sync her with Nikamara, and it was most likely Nikamara who caused the sync failure, but I can’t really understand why Lemon wasn’t synced with anyone after that, either.
If this gets her NK’d, I apologize, but it would be one more slot out of the PoE if so. If she doesn’t get NK’d, don’t rush to turboyeet her. Get her claim, get her explanation, and make a sound decision based on what her responses are.
Sorry if I end up shining the spotlight on a town PR but I’m very skeptical of her slot, especially because she said earlier when I was talking to her about whatever her role is, that she should’ve claimed a PR to get NK’d, and it looked to me like she was echoing what Blitz said during false EoD2 to get some sort of towncred for it.
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im tired
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
weh
ok
does anyone wanna talk about anything
imma do wisdom writeup rn
alright but WHY would you possibly out a PR
Lemon is in the PoE ^ so like, if she dies, she’s cleared and we have one less slot to solve. She’s next in my yeet order after Whysper so honestly I just want this said and considered tomorrow in case I wind up dead.
Also it’s literally public info to anyone who’s read the thread that Lemon hasn’t been synced with anyone and that she claims VT. That’s why I was questioning her earlier toDay. I asked if anyone could vouch for her from their sync chat and she said no.
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Oh yeah I have a certain thought based on mechanics which I may be wrong about, I’ll just post it for Merc to read
Am around and should be until EoD, though I may run a quick errand or two
Was kind of wondering at work today why Zone is not having fun this game, buuuut I’m pretty sure he thinks way differently than I do 
I know I got into the same type of trouble with Helz, but I’m just asking myself wtf is scum!Zone’s agenda/plan to win the game here if he’s a wolf.
Be rude/caustic to other players in the game for the purposes of achieving your own “fun”?
It feels like he’s intentionally shooting himself in the foot no matter what team he’s on.
Agree w/most of Chloe’s stuff about Merc - think the strongest points in her favor are the D1 squabble with Helz, plus the fact that Helz voted her at EoD2. If she was scum, Helz would have very likely just plopped his vote on the Tilg wagon instead
I would encourage you to not only ISO Nightingale/Wisdom but also take a look at my cat video interaction post or look at the Helz interactions yourself - because I don’t really see them as w/w unless they tried specifically distancing from each other in scumchat or something.
The way Helz treated Nightingale read very much like he was trying to shade her in retaliation for Night scumreading him.
Wisdom
Let’s start with Nightingale.
I wasn’t in the thread when Night was here, so I didn’t get a chance to realtime with her and it’s a little harder for me to grasp what the thread was like while she was around. However, after reading through Helz’s ISO I find it unlikely that the two are partnered. Helz’s first case of the game was on Night - and he shaded and cast suspicion on her multiple times in a way that doesn’t feel like distancing. It’s not productive - it’s gross and slimy - and i dont see reason to bus right off the bat. Helz seems more like the type of guy who wants to get his buddies into a good position early on (based off of his ‘manifesto’ as well as how he treated the Wisp CFD. I don’t think he goes hard on the bus early)
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Mannnn this is gross
This isn’t the type of stuff you say to/about a partner, and it reads as agenda
Here’s the case:
potato
Unless their plan was ‘distance and cast suspicion, then backtrack into a townread’ i dont see this as particularly partnered
Especially considering the fact that he never backed out of the scumread
Wisdom came into the game guns blazing, tossing out takes left and right without reason (a bit of preflipping here, but if Whysper is a wolf, Wisdom is a lot townier too) and Helz called her out on this. Wisdom went against alll the shit Helz was trying to set up - all of her reads countered his agenda - even if they weren’t well fleshed out. She sheeped my slot on Wisp for the hell of it and townread my slot, harrrd townread Luk (someone whom Helz was attempting to stomp on hardcore), scumread Guillo, and also scumread Helz himself. Helz treated her similarly to how he treated me in terms of discrediting, except he pushed much harder for her elim.
This is planting the seed and encouraging other people to push the wagon for him
This as well. Rather than beginning the push himself, he’s doing a call-to-arms and requesting other people pressure her.
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hot damn this is some agenda broski
This admittedly sketches me out a lil’ bit
(Also I’m ignoring his d4 iso bc lolantispew)
Wisdom also pushed for Helz to diediedie a shit ton
Helz had a ton of control over the thread, as well as loud players like Silviu and Wind. Why go for the bus? Why plant the idea in Wind’s head that Helz could be a wolf? He was in a fantastic position.
I just find their focus on eachother to be a waste of time and energy if they’re w/w
And Helz’s push feels much more like going for easy pickins - as Wisdom had no supporters, good reads, and a very skeletal ISO. Easy ML.
I’m slightly scared I’m misclearing here but… I don’t think I am?
She’s my least confident townread, but I still feel good about it. Absolutely want to see more from her.
Alright that should be all the explanations \o/
Yeah, those were my thoughts initially before going catching up to the thread. I do quite agree with your points about them.
I’ll also give them another ISO in a bit
It’s just how Zone plays regardless of alignment
I legit have no clue how to read the guy, as it feels like every game is a clone of the last
Hell, he might even be a wolf who wants to get himself eliminated because he feels like it
Idfk
But ‘what is zone doing if hes a wolf?’ has proven to not be a valid question multiple times over in my experience 
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I don’t think he really has an agenda/plan. He actually acted somewhat similarly in another game where he was wolf (the strongest PR, too). He acted antagonistic and was asking people to please go ahead and kill him. He kept up an attitude that basically made him get executed D1. I was also wolf in that game, though we never got the chance to interact as partners because that game only have night chat for the wolves.
S-FM 313: Mushroom Kingdom Madness II (sc2mafia.com)
Also, Wiisp was already bringing up having nervous vibes about Zone so early D1 and I feel this is more likely W/W distancing than W/V.
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Yeah, considering Wisp was kind of a wet blanket and I couldn’t really figure out Helz’s agenda on that Day 4 (though it’s likely that he was strongly in antispew mode) it’s probably the wrong question to be asking lmao
Still like my theory of the scum team just imploding on that Day 3 when Helz/Wisp were put under serious suspicion
I know this might be an obvious thing to say
but in the instance whysper flips v, try not to lose WiM
we’re still on the right track, and we’re down 2 wolves
the only situation in which we dont flip whysper is one where we are comfortable clearing her for the entire rest of the game - which i dont think anybody is willing to do
she goes down at some point, and sooner is better, as it allows us to work around her flip
so
regardless of what she flips
keep on truckin
we win these tbh
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