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#10922

I was hoping to get a deeper dive into your thought process than VCA, but if thats really what you’re going off of this game this is Fair™

I do think both of Merc and Aelin are l o c k c l e a r so these are valid choices congrats

I’ll entertain your world a bit. I do think it’s likely you go over tomorrow - and I feel pretty hypocritical calling people complacent when I’m not really talking to you as much as I could be

Can you try to figure out why you veto’d Wisdom?

A few things I find interesting are that you’re focusing on people outside of smallworldz
And my brain is oscillating a bit between

  • Zone is trying to save small?
    and
  • Small dies 99% of the time today. If small is a wolf, what is w!Zone doing by building teams outside of them?
    and
  • Small dies 99% of the time today. If small is a villager, what is w!Zone doing - are both min and Blitz villagers and he’s setting up future MLs?

Another interesting thing is that it seems a large majority of people are… avoiding interacting with you. (This kinda includes me, apologies lol)

  • Are you a villager that wolves want to keep on the table for a future ML? They don’t want people to find you, so they’re subtly encouraging not speaking with you?
  • Are you a wolf who is trying to dig out of their position in the PoE and villagers just don’t give a shit?

Food for thought

Okay this answers that I suppose
Why do you think this is near-clearing if Whysper was going over there no matter what?

#10923

I did not expect this game to last 3+ weeks when I joined ^^’ I must say I kinda enjoy it though, despite my low effort.

Maybe it’s only because we’re getting wolves yeeted and I caught at least one of them :wowee:

#10924

I see. I hope your mood lightens up once more in the near future.

#10925

I think small is a hit

I’m fine with dying unless its mylylo

#10926

Let me do some stuff today, dw

I’ve got a bit to stress out about rn

#10927

Ignore the ate

#10928

i cant

#10929

i feel oddly guilty about being certain small is a hit

poor guy just got here i feel like

#10930
  • It’s less that I want to save small, and more that I am tunneling on Blitz/min.
  • If Zone/small are W/W, then it’s GG. Boom bye scum. My death is inevitable at D8.
  • If Zone/small are W/V, then there is at least 1 more scum, and it could still be within Blitz/min, but since town can only afford 2 MLs, town is doomed if the last scum is a deepwolf.

I can tell you that it’s the first one, but other than the fact that I’ve been trying to get myself executed since D5, I really got no clear evidence of me being town.

–also, you are mistaken about one thing: Villagers don’t give a shit about me not only when I am scum; they do it regardless of my alignment.

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#10931

It isn’t. I am simply biased.

(…I could’ve sworn you complained about constantly getting MLs because we keep following schedules.)

#10932

For someone who’s been giving low effort, I’d expected that they would bite the bait that is me if they are scum.

#10933

As said before only swapped my vote to help resolve the tie situation, previously my vote was on wiisp. Between Kaif and PKR, I had a stronger TR on the former

I really don’t think you could say that I saved Merc. I had no one voted, even before that and I didn’t want to join the sudden merc wagon. After my vote, WWA and you swapped over to tilg. Plus my vote was within the like the last 2 minutes. Finally me and merc only became partners 2(?) nights after that so sync chat woudn’t be a reasoning for that.

I had my vote on wisdom but even before placing it, I had stated I wanted to see the wiisp wagon resolved. Furthermore as previously mentioned I had a scumleaned them on D1 so I was happy to go through with it. I wasn’t sure what the exact count was at that time and voted to place my vote, before going to sleep but I would have swapped my vote to wiisp later on if there was a tie situation

at that point whysper had already said there piece and the others online at that time currently were in agreement with hammering. there was only 3 hours left and I wanted to see it before I went to sleep <.<. I don’t think you can extract info from the not voting section based on that

how was lemon a threat? We’ve been scumreading each other since D1. If I was one of the scums, why would I spend so much time pressuring a traitor whose identity I should have known?

#10934

Wow. For some terrible conf!bias tunnel arguments, it sure gives nice reactions.
Let’s see how far I can go with it.

D1 looks BS since Kaif had 4 votes while PKR had 8 votes including yours; there was no tie (anymore) by the time you voted.

D2 is a good defense since even I agree that the Merc wagon was actually BS.
Not sure why Merc sync was mentioned; I don’t see why scum needs to gain towncred only when they are sync’ed.

D3 sounds reasonable, but doesn’t match your D1 actions. You say you only vote when there is a tie, yet you voted PKR when it was no longer a tie.

D5 is fair, but I can extract info from [Not voting]; I literally just did that.

D6’s threat is Lemlem’s vote. You might have forgotten about it, but I value votes and actions more than reads and guts.
Additionally, according to Lemlem’s role, scum couldn’t have known that she was a Lost Wolf.

#10935

@Chloe, do you see what I see?

@Blitz, update your reads.
Who are the last 2 scum?

#10936

Zone please… this is like the 3rd time your making me repeat this. It was within the last minutes of the day. Aelin had swapped so I also also swapped just in case someone else changes votes and brings back the tie situation.All the votes were within seconds from each other.

My bad, it but it felt like you were semi-implying that

I didn’t say I only vote when there’s a tie, I said I would vote if there was a tie and again I explained PKR situation above

I still don’t see how lemons vote was a threat? <.<
but yeah, I missread her role reveal

#10937

We didn’t target Arline.

#10938

Acknowledged Chloe’s vote post; gonna be pretty gunshy about voting in general unless I really want to end the Day early.

Why are you vetoing me based off of Helz’s wagon? I played very little part in catching him - Chloe/Windward/Lukundo played a large part in doing so IIRC.

I don’t think analyzing that EoD4 Helz wagon is a very good idea. With how that Day went, Helz was basically outed scum as soon as he claimed in the middle of that Day, and the votes on him were kind of composed of who was online at the time. Someone correct me on this if I’m wrong, but I don’t think the late game vote counts are going to be super useful given the current gamestate context. I would personally place more weight on votes/wagons Days 1/2/3.

Blitz I would need to do a more concentrated read through (also my read on him kind of depends on what small flips).

I don’t thiiiiiiiink min is scum? Not sure if scum!min kills Windward Night 5, and I read through their town/scum games and this game kinda seems like more of their town game. Plus Helz’s posts to min kinda suggest that he wanted min to sheep him, but that’s not a super strong read.

Can you make a behavioral case as to why you believe min or Blitz are mafia?

#10939

As for my reads, it’s still the same as before
Smallworlds in lead.
If the game still goes on then one of the 3 from my list going from Wisdom->Min->Zone

#10940

sooo i have news

i backed up whysper and now i have an ability called killblocker

#10941

Mmn… Yeah, my bad. I tend to forget stuff.
*whirring noises*
I… cannot find a single fault in your logic.

/unvote

Okay, cool. That’s all I need to know.

Ya, and Chloe cleared you with a wallpost that I have forgotten. Get over it.

I cannot. I made my conf!bias read on those two on a whim and kept reinforcing it with the intention of tunneling.

I just undid my case on Blitz though, so now I am only slightly very confused for the POE.