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[RopeStringFace]

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[ThePlex]

First things first, before you say anything, don’t ask me how to fix your suggestion.

• “Third antagonist faction, WIP” - At least finish it before submitting it.

• In Medieval times, you wouldn’t have had a President running a Government. It was down to Kings etc.

• “Starts with president and the hitman” “The federation spawns with the president and the executioner.” Wot?

• “Manslaughter” showing a random killer class when exhumed isn’t useful, especially if it shows Reaper, Merc, Prince or even Cult Leader/Assassin. It’ll just give away the original Killer quickly.

• Which faction does Executioner belong to?

• Detective seems too bland. Which faction does it belong to?

• Medic seems like weaker Physician. Which faction does it belong to?

• Saboteur’s ability doesn’t make any sense. What faction does it belong to?

• Bureaucrat class makes it support, not social. What faction does it belong to?

• You only gave Revolutionary a Faction. Also, killing Blue Dragon with no penalty = Very fucking OP

• This Class seems very much like Cult + Ruby’s Cabal.
  1 only 1 of each class
  2 “Test allegiance” = “Test of faith”
  3 “Class type determines what someone is converted into”
  4 “Brainwash”

• The whole Revolution theme here triggers me. It doesn’t many any sense to me right now. This seems all over the place.

• “Please do pick apart my suggestion in the replies, as I have hit writer’s block with this .-.” I’m confused by this. Did you mis-type and forget “do not pick” because if so, you should have finished this post before submitting it.

[Jazz]

@RopeStringFace

Please do pick apart my suggestion in the replies

ask and you shall recieve

#Class Specific Stuff

@RopeStringFace

-Forming government (passive) immune to death at night (except by the revolutionary) and appears as not federation to revolutionary nights 1-3

Your converter gets replaced infinitely so this is a bad thing to have

@RopeStringFace

-Brainwash (night, infinite uses, one day cool down) Attempt to convert the selected player in to the federation. It will fail if they are immune to convert, or if you already have that class type in the federation. There is no 1 day cool-down if you are the only live member of the federation.

Needs renaming as “Brainwash” is the name of the Cult Leader’s conversion ability

@RopeStringFace

-Promote (night, infinite uses) if there is no executioner, promote the target federation member to executioner.

Seems okay, keeping this different from the Unseen

@RopeStringFace

-Manslaughter (night, infinite uses) kill the target player. If the physician exhumes them, it will show a random killer class as the culprit.

This seems like it could just prematurely fuck over the federation by revealing them as early as night 2

@RopeStringFace

-Premeditate (day, 1 use) Manslaughter will bypass death immunity tonight, but if the victim is exhumed, it will show the executioner as the killer.

okay I guess

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The detective – Investigative
-Inquire (night, infinite uses) reveal to yourself the target’s class type.

Needs more

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The medic – support
-Restore health (night, infinite uses) heal your target, preventing them from dying tonight.

Needs more

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The saboteur – offensive
-Sabotage (night, infinite uses) Destroy your target’s abilities, occupying them; however, they still use a use of whatever ability they attempted tonight.

Needs more

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The Bureaucrat – Social
-File (night, 4 uses) File your papers; you will appear as the class you were converted from to investigators tonight.

This doesn’t seem like a social ability to me, also it needs more, also why not use it every night considering that you have no other abilities

@RopeStringFace

-Test allegiance (night, infinite uses) determine if your target is a member of the federation.

fairly standard

@RopeStringFace

-Cement rule (night, 2 uses) Cement the rule of blue dragon by killing the target. There is no consequence if you accidentally kill a blue dragon member.

I don’t like this, as it’s basically a buffed paladin but it also allows the revolutionary to fuck up the BD really easily by hitting the prince or something

#Overall Stuff

@RopeStringFace

Class type determines what someone is converted into

This makes it too similar to the Cult, imo all factions should have a unique way of converting, Unseen does it based on class, Cult does it based on type

@RopeStringFace

If that type is already in the federation (Ex: You attempt to convert the knight, but have a hitman already) then the conversion will fail.

Oh gee I wonder where you got this from(cough cough Cabal cough cough)
this is really bad, coupled with the fact that you don’t know what your target will become anyway, if you get a game with a lot of repeated types the federation gets fucked up the butt really easily

@RopeStringFace

Upon the death of the president, the oldest member becomes the new president, unless there is the bureaucrat present, in which case the bureaucrat becomes president.

Why is the Bureaucrat so special?

Also, a few final questions:
Why is The President the bad guy?
Why is The Revolutionary the good guy?
What is a President doing in medieval times?

In Conclusion: This Faction needs a retheme and needs a lot of work

[ThePlex]

The Bolshevik Party…

In reference to the Russian Social-Democratic Workers Party. Which Lenin led? In October 1917?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

[RopeStringFace]

Yeah, it’s going to be good, hoepfully

[ThePlex]

This is a Medieval based Social Deduction game.

October 1917 isn’t Medieval.

[Jazz]

I loved that part where Vladimir Lenin invented the time machine

[RopeStringFace]

@ThePlex

October 1917 isn’t Medieval.

From what do you think the Bolshevik party was inspired?

The other Bolshevik party that happened in medieval times…

[ThePlex]

Oh yeah? Please reference this.