Devs/Mods have got the wrong idea about Neutrals (but mostly Alchemists)

#61

Sorry I think I misread your initial post. If it’s just the assassin left it is needlessly stalling the game to jail him repeatedly and refuse to vote, and would fall in line with the kind of behavior I’m talking about in my OP.

#62

@Ellie
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#63

0%<1%

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#64

The chances of Alch changing their mind is as likely as the Poss forgetting to attack.

#65

Yeah but you had a 0% of winning killing the alch than the 1%. You had a chance of winning not attacking the alch.

No matter how you put it the assassin actually gamethrew there.

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#66

This is false, the alchemist could heal the possessor’s attack on assassin/herbalist. The Possessor could “forget” to attack. The possessor could misread the situation and attack the alchemist. In all these situations, the Assassin attacking the Alchemist would win the game for the Unseen. Debating the merits of the hypothetical is just distracting from the main point being made however, but I could not resist. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

#67

But then the possessor could also use possess.

#68

I don’t get it

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#69

Cough, it is really hard to establish gamethrowing in a social game with limited information and possibly limited experience.

#70

Same. It’s a summoning circle, but I don’t know why I am being summoned.

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#71

To give your own opinion maybe?

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#72

This isn’t blaming the alch or the devs. You’re blaming the community picking on the alch.

#73

As Possessor in your instance. Killing the alchemist would classify as throwing would it not? Because you NEED him alive in order to win.

The same goes with the unseen or cult in this instance. You can’t kill the possessor and the alchemist is essentially an ally. You cannot win the game by killing him unless the possessor throws the game. That is why your hypothetical scenario doesn’t work and also why the alchemist has the ability to choose. He is necessary for any side here to win.

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#74

What made you conclude this?

#75

Technically, I went against my win condition

Actually no. Pardoning Neutral Killer as Good King in order to prevent Cult from reaching majority is an attempt at fulfilling your win condition.

#76

Ignoring the difficulty in proving an actual case, an Alchemist who knowingly bombs a bearing Hunter is gamethrowing. This should be something at least that everyone on both sides of the issue can agree on, right?

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#77

But what if they thought the hurter was converted, or lying? :thinking:

#78

I specified he knowingly bombs a bearing Hunter.

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#79

Prove the Alchemist had a way of knowing the hunter was bearing.

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#80

lol