[Discord Poll] Final WKM Poll

Feedback/Suggestions
#1

Boslof on discord

List of possible solutions: https://goo.gl/forms/9NqTVLd3mPoy6a0K2

#2

Personally I think making evils almost guaranteed to have whisper reading by D2 is the way to go.

That method also solve other possible whisper meta’s while itself having methods of regulating for balence and effects on non-meta whispers

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#3

Yeah something that doesn’t remove King’s whisper because people will claim to prince instead

#4

I like neighbor whispering…

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#5

No that’s really dumb lol

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#6

Why tho

#7

All these dang burritos are stealing our jobs

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#8

Don’t just say it’s dumb
It’s actually a very neat idea

#9

Correct Answers

  • Remove whispers
  • WKM (unless we go whole-hog on this and remove whispering from all BD, but even then that’s a lot)
  • WKM
  • WKM
  • Reading whisper abilities
  • WKM

Source

  • I have literally been trying to fix this shit in Town of Salem for four years. I’ve been thinking about this a long-ass time.
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#10

And the title of the next poll:
“Yet Another Final WKM Poll”

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#11

All of these are too harsh. Whispering doesn’t need an extreme solution. Whispering isn’t the problem; mass-claimint is.

#12

I’d rather have it on a NE than Mastermind. Giving it to Mastermind would detract from Aristocrat’s niche

#13

Whispering doesn’t need to be removed. There is nothing wrong with whispers as a concept, they are only an issue when used to mass-claim. Here’s why they are good:

  • BD can reveal information without outing themself to the court.

  • BD and scum can communicate in secret

  • EK can communicate with evils

  • NEs can communicate with evils

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#14

Not really. Consider how limited such a spy is compared to a global spy given no WKM

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#15

Plus aristocrat isn’t JUST a spy

#16

“Spies”? Where?
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#17

A downside of whispers

Both things I argue for keeping by making whispers scum-only

Something that would be lost, but… so what? Open day discussion is more engaging for everybody in the end.

#18

It’s a downside for scum but a positive for Blue Dragon. The game shouldn’t be biased toward either side.

Yes but sometimes secret information is needed. What if the pally really doesn’t want to out themselves after finding cult and the supports are dead?

#19

I don’t mind WKM yet I have an idea that you might want to add to the list anyway (I did submit it on the poll):

  • Give Illusionist and Aristocrat and Apostle and Possessor the ability to read a player’s ENTIRE past whisper history.

Illusionist would have the useless Mental Blur replaced with this ability. Since Illusionist is so rare, let this new ability reveal ALL past whispers of EVERY player to the ENTIRE Unseen so that they benefit from the ability even if the Illusionist dies the night after she is converted.

Apostle and Aristocrat’s Court Spy would remain the same, yet become a targetable ability in order to incorporate its new power: reading a specific player’s past whisper history (in addition to spying on the court).

Possessor would be able to read the entire past whisper history of anyone that he possesses or puppet-strings. This would have the added benefit of annihilating the possword meta.

#20

Can’t tell if mistake or pun

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