Dreaming Gods and Dreaming Titans FM - Game Over [5/24] - Bellerophon and Pegasus Win!

[CRichard564]

Trust me I’ve got worse descriptions for you.

[Mistyx]

go ahead lol I’m about to sleep anyway so I’ll feel better by tomorrow no matter what

[TheBlueElixir]

@Centuries

In the past 3+ years of me playing Mafia I’ve never played a scum game with you in it

what

ive been playing FM for like 2 months(you can see when I joined here, ive only played on this site)

@CRichard564

Trust me I’ve got worse descriptions for you.

@Mistyx

go ahead lol I’m about to sleep anyway so I’ll feel better by tomorrow no matter what

CRich

dont go ahead.

[CRichard564]

Good I don’t want to talk to you right now.

[Centuries]

@Centuries

Yeah I’m tired of losing at Mafia so I’m just going to post Alice’s day 1 post from Insurgency just do what she said

@Alice

So for a NAI opening I’m planning on creating a plan for us to improve the villaging bar and to avoid the mistakes that happened in JJBA and Anime and instead we’ll play this like NDFM, so in short, here’s what we’re going to do.

A) We are going to create a shots list and stick to it.

I don’t mean blindly adhering to it without re-evaluating, I mean that nobody here is going to hero shoot as it overwhelmingly kills villagers and gives the wolves an excuse to shoot in the towncore. We’ll be periodically re-evaluating our reads and whatnot throughout the match.

B) We are not going to slank.

Anyone who has a very small postcount will be automatically added to the shotlist as we can’t read slankers. This is one of the main reasons why we had way too many villagers in the shotlist in Anime FM as it allowed the actual wolves like Ici and Lendun to hide behind the lowposting villagers.

C) We are not going to mechanically clear people.

Unless you’re an IC, a mason, or greenchecked, then mechanics will not clear you. Wolf-aligned trackers can exist, wolf-aligned double voters can exist, wolf-aligned gladiators can exist. Point is, we’re not going to do like in LotR where we cleared two wolves for being a double-voter and a medium. So your doctor claim will not take you out of the shotlist.

D) Everyone will make reads in the first day.

Same reason as B. The bar to village here will be raised in order to make the shotlist as accurate as possible. I will not accept meta defenses here where you will be excused from making reads just because you don’t typically do them regardless of your alignment. If you can’t name your top three villagers and top three wolves at EoD1 and give a reasoning why, you’ll go to the shot list.

E) We will not claim for no reason.

Unless you’re an IC/Mason under pressure or a cop with a redcheck, then don’t out. We have no idea how is the anti-claim mechanic this match so in order to minimize wolf KP or prevent them from circumventing our night actions then we’re not going to claim nor make night plans. Just check nulls, protect the towncore, and vig in the shotlist.

F) Vigs should follow the shotlists as well.

Ideally Vigs should shoot the CW of a mislynch wagon, but if this is not applicable then just shoot in the shotlist. Don’t hero shoot a consensus village as this is what caused the town to lose SFV.

tl;dr - Let’s actually play well this match.

Also I’m just gonna add that

Having a heated gamer argument doesn’t make you lock town
Let’s re evaluate reads at least once a day
If you have a read on someone say it, even if it’s contrarian
Push your reads and actively use your vote
I’m locktown

@TheBlueElixir

So for a NAI opening I’m planning on creating a plan for us to improve the villaging bar and to avoid the mistakes that happened in JJBA and Anime and instead we’ll play this like NDFM, so in short, here’s what we’re going to do.

A) We are going to create a shots list and stick to it.

I don’t mean blindly adhering to it without re-evaluating, I mean that nobody here is going to hero shoot as it overwhelmingly kills villagers and gives the wolves an excuse to shoot in the towncore. We’ll be periodically re-evaluating our reads and whatnot throughout the match.

B) We are not going to slank.

Anyone who has a very small postcount will be automatically added to the shotlist as we can’t read slankers. This is one of the main reasons why we had way too many villagers in the shotlist in Anime FM as it allowed the actual wolves like Ici and Lendun to hide behind the lowposting villagers.

C) We are not going to mechanically clear people.

Unless you’re an IC, a mason, or greenchecked, then mechanics will not clear you. Wolf-aligned trackers can exist, wolf-aligned double voters can exist, wolf-aligned gladiators can exist. Point is, we’re not going to do like in LotR where we cleared two wolves for being a double-voter and a medium. So your doctor claim will not take you out of the shotlist.

D) Everyone will make reads in the first day.

Same reason as B. The bar to village here will be raised in order to make the shotlist as accurate as possible. I will not accept meta defenses here where you will be excused from making reads just because you don’t typically do them regardless of your alignment. If you can’t name your top three villagers and top three wolves at EoD1 and give a reasoning why, you’ll go to the shot list.

E) We will not claim for no reason.

Unless you’re an IC/Mason under pressure or a cop with a redcheck, then don’t out. We have no idea how is the anti-claim mechanic this match so in order to minimize wolf KP or prevent them from circumventing our night actions then we’re not going to claim nor make night plans. Just check nulls, protect the towncore, and vig in the shotlist.

F) Vigs should follow the shotlists as well.

Ideally Vigs should shoot the CW of a mislynch wagon, but if this is not applicable then just shoot in the shotlist. Don’t hero shoot a consensus village as this is what caused the town to lose SFV.

G) Everyone should have a vote cast by EoD.

Ideally we have this for better analysis of wagonomics.

F again) For the Mafia

tl;dr - Let’s actually play well this match.

Also someone said those were 2 minutes apart but it’s literally post #2 and post #3 when sod went by really fast like the first 5 minutes

idk im pretty sure its 15 seconds at most which make me think there’s no way he took the time to add this

@TheBlueElixir

G) Everyone should have a vote cast by EoD.

Ideally we have this for better analysis of wagonomics.

F again) For the Mafia

tl;dr - Let’s actually play well this match.

and bold it while copying my post

[Mistyx]

I’m very much willing to take it if it helps him let off some steam because he seems frustrated to an almost unhealthy point

[Centuries]

Post isn’t AI but I don’t get the reasoning behind the person calling it NAI

[Aelin]

Hullo, CRich. This has been… interesting, to say the least. I understand that you’re upset - being scumread isn’t fun. But you need to be logical in order to help people see that, if you’re town.

[CRichard564]

As if logic is going to win over someone who scum reads me for illogical reasons.
I’m not stupid you know.

[Centuries]

@CRichard564

who scum reads me for illogical reasons.

from V!Crich pov it makes sense but like actually only from your pov

[Aelin]

I know you’re not stupid, but you’re acting crazy aggressive, man.

[CRichard564]

Well thanks. Shall I show up at your office then?

[Mistyx]

Fair

But I have tried to be logical with you and you’ve ignored it in favor of my more projected posts

[TheBlueElixir]

this might not be the right place

unfortuantely we’re well past RVS, which is by far the best stage

/vote Italy

[CRichard564]

Here comes the Marshal.

[Marshal]

Fun fact: Boreas was the Greek god of the cold north wind and the bringer of winter.

So please, be like Boreas and chill. We’re all friends here.

Also VC incoming

[Mistyx]

Anyway I’m heading out

see ya

[Centuries]

@Marshal

Boreas

Fun fact

Boreas is the Pokemon Tornadus’ French Name

[CRichard564]

As far as I can tell, Ash and Mist have shown no reason that makes me believe their push on me is town motivated. Why would Ash town lean me and suddenly push me if he were town?
In what world would town Ash pushing me make sense?
I’m still waiting.

Look at Mist. Doesn’t interact with my slot and scum reads me for a reason that doesn’t exist.
Where is the town motivation there?

[Aelin]

Here; I’m going to be logical, because I feel like this has all just blown out of proportion. People chose to put pressure on your slot because you made a read, and then you didn’t use any factual evidence to back it up. I know it seemed factual to you, but other people might not have been seeing it the same way you did. While a tonal/meta read is good, it’s better if you can show it it is similar to previous games.