Duchess and Nightwatch buffs/Reworks

Duchess

Bat Eyelashes also returns faction in addition to class type. Ex: Neutral Killer or BD Support

Nightwatch

Follow renamed to Stalk. It now returns the full Night results of target player instead of who they visited in addition to who visited them. Ex: 5 Found that 7 was Unseen! 5 Was attacked and healed. 2 and 3 visited 5

Watch carefully now also returns how meny charges of limited use Ability’s they have. Ex: 4 is the Hunter. 4 has 1 bear and 2 wolves.

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I like those Buffs, i really do but can i ask: Do you meant to Buff Unseen faction?

Otherwise, they are already strong enough but still i can’t deny that would help a little for Unseen.

/support

It’s because these particular converts are really weak compared to the others. Buffing them makes the Unseen more consistent which is important.

The Unseen as a whole does not need buffs.

To be truth told, i would more likely Buff the Alcoholic first but yea your explanation is reasonable.

/support

I’m down

I’m not really for or against the primary ability changes, however I think watch carefully is strong enough as it is. Duchess and Nightwatch will tend to use their stronger limited abilities first, as they might quickly be turned into assassin, so buffing their primary abilities will not do that much more. Admittedly, since allies has been removed, Duchess is a lot less powerful. I definitely do not think that either of these converts are weak however. I am more concerned about Herbalist, who is always so weak to me.

it really isn’t. It’s like a nerfed probe

Herb is not that weak. It’s easy get a drug get confirmed and get some trickster defile to trick BD

Except Probe is a nerfed Watch Carefully.

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Not really…

Finding exact neut classes is basically useless and if you run into a neut you will know he is one if you use probe

*buffed

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I personally don’t think it’s “buffed”

It is literally just equal to or better in all situations.

Watch Carefully literally gives more accurate results when checking a neutral, and the same results as Probe when checking BD. I don’t see how you can see Probe as a better Watch Carefully.

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I’ve won games because of watch carefully telling me the exact class of neuts.

However since 8 times out of 10 you can figure out someone’s class with this new stalk I find it a good idea to give the ability a buff

I mean the only thing it’s better at is finding exact neuts also more uses imo equal a better ability

Defile is extremely hard to use effectively and I seldom see it used well by the majority of the playerbase. The logs discrepancy is also quite obvious usually. It also effectively outs the herbalist. I more often than not see a herbalist being caught, because he used drug too, instead of actually saving the herbalist. The abilities are also useless aside from attempting to deceive.

More uses does not affect the strength of the ability being used.