For example this
It’s correct though
It never changes people personality, it changes your perspective
It’s not.
If you’re better you automatically feel superior to a lot of people and it takes a certain kind of mental restraint not to present this type of attitude all the time.
I know a lot of good players who are just straight up assholes sometimes.
And I really doubt they would be like this if they weren’t ‘good.’
Maybe this doesn’t apply to you, but being better at FM frequently changes people. Not everyone, but some of them? Definitely.
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Vulgard, what you just described isn’t solely forum mafia fault. It’s any kind of competition, if you are good at something you will feel superior then people who aren’t good.
To say you don’t want to improve at a game, because you are afraid of it changing you as a person is dumb. You will feel better then others at the game, because you ARE better then others. We need to be clear on this fact. There are people who are better then others, just because you don’t like this fact doesn’t mean it’s not true.
The way that you act, is entirely your fault. Not the fact that you got better at the game. It’s your fault entirely. Don’t try to put it off on the game and say it changed me when it’s your fault.
Do you know what I did when someone said I was worse then someone else. I tried very hard to get better at the game, and I did. I asked multiple people for help on this, and almost every single person I asked gave me a different answer that I was confused on what to do. Except I still tried very hard on this and I did it.
You know what I realized when I got good at the game. That the people I asked for advice, aren’t gods. That’s the change of perspective you have when you get better at the game. You come to realize that people aren’t invincible, they aren’t the greatest forum mafia players, they just are better then the average people on this site.
That’s why it’s very important to have this change of perspective. It’s much easier to read people when you have it, because then you realize it’s much easier to read experienced players then you thought it was. You realize a lot of other things about this game as well.
Being good at something doesn’t change your personality, It changes your perspective on this game and other players. When you see people differently, you react differently. It’s your own fault for reacting differently, not the fact that you got good at the game.
Because when you have this change of perspective, you will realize that the players who are called good can easily be struck down, it’s just no one struck at them yet.
And the fact that you priestess say this change of perspective is realizing you are better then everyone, is ridiculous. Because it’s opposite to the fact, you realize there are players who are MUCH BETTER then you. That’s a blow to your self confidence a lot.
I sound arrogant with the way I talk, so I say things like Lol you are being so obvious scum right now. However do you know what I think when I see inexperienced players being obvious scum? Or making mistakes? I’m thinking about people who are better then me and saying to myself, how the hell can I ever improve if the people I play with aren’t improving.
That’s why I try to think of ways to improve the level of play here. Because I WANT to improve more then I already have. It’s much more fun to play with people you know and that’s I want to improve my skill by only playing here. But I cannot do that if other people are going to not try to improve, or won’t ask help.
That’s why we get mad at people who don’t actually put effort into this game, because it shows that they do not care about this game enough to put effort. It shows that they do not care to show the community that wants to try here respect when they join their games.
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Don’t think on this
Just start typing, that’s what I did. Your feelings will come out on the post when you start typing
I would be worried if that attitude would be presented outside of games, but inside of games using your reputation or level of skill is just a trait you can use to further your game and fulfill your win condition. Others will use those traits to assess you anyways, but you can’t capitalize on them??
Alright here’s my big fat opinion that I’ll word completely wrong.
You guys are making a giant, clear separating line between very good players and players that are learning.
Referring to them as new, level 1/2, etc doesn’t help at all. What happens is it puts them in the mindset that they aren’t as good, that they shouldn’t be as confident in their reads and they start to just sheep the people labeled as good.
Are the people that can guess the whole scumteam doing anything wrong? No. It’s just the fact you smack labels on people. Oop _____ will just get SPKed N1. ______ reads are usually really good. It makes it so that people that think they aren’t as good as these players shift into the mindset of sheeping and laziness, not because they’re not good at the game but because they believe they aren’t, if that makes sense.
The people that are said to be really good need to take it backs step. Y’all need to stop treating them like they’re a step up. Saying so and so isn’t as good or they slank all the time is making the problem worse, same with how do I say this like idolizing someone’s reads.
As long as you categorize players by how experienced they are they’re not going to improve because they’re going to keep on thinking they’re not as good. They’ll lose confidence and then they’ll just slip into sheeping.
I’m not saying to stop reading people based on if they’re newer or not, but enforcing a clear line and sorting people into levels of skill isn’t going to encourage anyone to improve.
Like, there’s people here that can get the whole entire scumteam D1. Others trying to learn and get better just no longer have the motivation because they know that so and so HAS a good chance at knowing the scumteam
The difference between level of play here is simply too large, and rather than trying to help one another get better, you guys just yell at people to sheep you or swear at them for doing something wrong.
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Sulit there’s literally an article on MU that defines how to read people based off their experience level level 1 level 2 level 3