Experimental Forum of Lies 1 - Deaf and Afraid - The Unseen Win!

FK said he watch Orange visiting himself - meaning he couldn’t tell who visited Orange?

I don’t get it…sure FK would have known.

Well if FK followed Orange, saw Orange visit himself and that only, that means this:

has to be true.

You could say FK was lying but since he’s in my townbloc for now I’m not even considering it.

Also I don’t see any benefit whatsoever for scum to do that unless Orange was killed by Assassin.

…which would actually be a pretty decent play.

Sorry for hyperposting, I’ll calm myself down.

The people don’t get informed about bait and switch right?

But why would Orange us CS in the first place? It’s more like he used Sacrifice but end up guarding himself and basically attacked?

Just realized the new name of the thread is a pun.

Orange could’ve used CS on his CC. However, what is problematic is that he was asked to guard, and I don’t think he would disobey.

This is definitely weird.

@Marluxion If Observer gets prevented on someone or occupied, do they receive a “no result” or “target didn’t visit anyone and wasn’t visited”?

^^

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My theories:

  1. Orange disobeyed us and CS’d someone, but ended up CSing himself due to swapsies.
  2. Firekitten is a lying convert covering up the Assassin’s kill.
  3. Firekitten’s Observer claim was a lie since the beginning, but he is not necessarily Unseen.

Nothing else makes any sense to me. Also, consider the fact that if FK was converted, they have a lot of room to lie in order to make sure Assassin kills as many people as possible.

Also:

Squid - Townbloc Member
Boss - BD Lean
Joker - Thunderdome with Pug
Meme - Meme Hunter
Dama - Townbloc Member
Mole - Scumlean
Ashe - Convert/Townbloc Member (leaning towards the latter)
Marcus - Neutral Scum
Insanity - Neutral/Scum
Frost - BD Lean/Convert
Pug - Thunderdome with Joker
Firekitten - Townbloc Member/Convert
PokemonKidRyan - BD Lean
Shurian - Blatant Cowardly King

My list has just become problematic…

I don’t have nearly enough BD on it which is a really bad sign. From my experience - when that happens it means there’s one or more scum read as BD by most players.

Looking more closely at FK now.

/Execute
Hard claimed scum so…

Yeah I can see that we didn’t find out who the scorned is and I can’t be scorned due to guilty check to make me look like eiher Assassin, Fool or scorned target.

And since we’re talking about bait and switch - Firekitten didn’t say who visited Orange and even if the scorned did switch him - who is the other switched player that is suppose to visit Orange as well. I see Firekitten could be lying and Marcus could be legit Butler too but his defense is awful.

That’s actually true - Bait and Switch would be visible to FK

Looks like FK is lying for no reason.

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The question is, should we allow to exe or not?

Unless you suggest human error in reading the results

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FK has to be converted or other scum

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