FAM Final Main Thread - Game Over - Mafia + Imperials win!

[katze]

@GGhana

[REDACTED PASSIVE]

“im gay”

[clonedcheese]

So
NKA
since i think it’s 1 scum 1 sk right now
or something else, i just think we have >1 kp rn and am trying to figure out mech

D2:
Wazza - ???
Marshal - Mafia
Nightingale - the 3p that kils cult

D3:
Aelin - ??? (assumed desperado)
Eli - sniped by marl

D4:
Esooa - the 3p that kills cult
PKR - mafia
Arctic - ???

D5:
Blizer - mafia

D6:
Italy - mafia
Lemon - ???
Mist - ???

someone help me out here

[katze]

@clonedcheese

Wazza - ???

TL claimed this kill

@clonedcheese

Nightingale - the 3p that kils cult

which would make this (probably) unaccounted for?

@clonedcheese

Aelin - ??? (assumed desperado)

she softed targeting marl with this the day prior

so probably desperado?

@clonedcheese

PKR - mafia

ghana claims this kill

@clonedcheese

Lemon - ???

delayed death from blizer

[clonedcheese]

2 things i have no clue what happened:

1. we consistently have a ??? kill on even nights
2. wtf happened on d3? was mafia on aelin?

[katze]

@clonedcheese

Italy - mafia
Mist - ???

i wouldnt be surprised if mist was a mafia kill and italy was unaccounted for

but “one is mafia, one is ???” is where im at too

[clonedcheese]

@katze

@clonedcheese

Nightingale - the 3p that kils cult

which would make this (probably) unaccounted for?

still smth unaccounted for, thought night might be the 3p kill since cult leader

@katze

@clonedcheese

Aelin - ??? (assumed desperado)

she softed targeting marl with this the day prior

so probably desperado?

this makes the mafia kill nonexistent
which
???

@katze

@clonedcheese

Lemon - ???

delayed death from blizer

no?
blizer wanted to kill lemon n4, or maybe noactioned
probably noactioned, since lemon lived and blizer died
lemon died the night after

[katze]

@clonedcheese

no?
blizer wanted to kill lemon n4, or maybe noactioned
probably noactioned, since lemon lived and blizer died
lemon died the night after

cheese i went over this entire scenario yesterday

lemon was killed by blizer

[clonedcheese]

well i missed that discussion
run me through it

[katze]

@katze

okay ill try to lay this out in a lot of words and hopefully it makes sense

the way chronomancer works is that it targets a player. if that player were to die for any reason that does not bypass regular healing, then they will survive and have their death delayed for two nights. (so if they were attacked N1 and delayed, they would die N3)

consider having a delayed death as a status effect. when the status effect expires, they are inflicted by an attack, which does not bypass healing/immunity but does not count as a visit.

chronomancer additionally has an ability to move all delayed deaths to another player.

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on night one, i was attacked by Marl “Marluxion” Heroshot – and delayed by Gamer “Blizer” Doctor. so i had a death on me that would “expire” on N3.

on night two, Blizer moved this death off of me, and onto Jane. this means that instead of me having the “delayed death” status effect, Jane had it.

on night three, Blizer delayed Mistyx. Jane survived the night, and so did I.

me surviving N3 means that Blizer was not roleblocked N2.

Jane surviving N3 means that they were healed or otherwise immune to death on N3.

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my current theory is that, on N3, Centuries redirected Blizer onto Jane. what would happen here is that, instead of dying to their current delayed death, they would have their delayed death delayed (yet again) – but they would survive.

Jane’s role has no indication of being bulletproof in any way, and the only flipped wolf role that could theoretically have saved Jane N3 was Leafia – the Jailkeeper. But she died on N2.

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now, i don’t know what role(s) mafia still has remaining, it is fully possible they have a BPV giver or some shit. i really doubt a mafia doctor and mafia jailkeeper both exist, tthough.

and there’s also the possibility that blizer just didn’t act on N4 in which case even if I’m right it’d effectively do nothing

sooooo

nya

[orangeandblack5]

cheese how tf did you miss that

[clonedcheese]

cool i think we can assume it’s blizer then, don’t think he would noaction

this leaves us with an unaccounted kill every even night

bleh

honestly wont be surprised if we have 1 groupscum left and its just “every even night scum gets an extra kill” due to having slightly less than optimal players for 1 kill each night

dont think even-night sk would work

[orangeandblack5]

@clonedcheese

this leaves us with an unaccounted kill every even night

…no?

[clonedcheese]

i was working during that time ok

[clonedcheese]

can you account for them

[katze]

@clonedcheese

honestly wont be surprised if we have 1 groupscum left and its just “every even night scum gets an extra kill” due to having slightly less than optimal players for 1 kill each night

i think “even night scum vigilante” would make more sense

[clonedcheese]

well something like that
just
even night groupscum has 2 kp instead of 1

[katze]

iirc leafias role had a one shot vig kill

possible that’d explain the extra kill on n1 as well

but theres unexplained kills even if we assume that’s the case so shrugze

[katze]

@FoLAnnualMash

Australian (Passive): Due to being upside down, you perplex modern science. Your actions cannot be prevented or redirected on odd nights.

Bonk (Night): Each Night, as a Night action, you may target another player with a weeb profile picture to send that player to jail for their crimes against humanity. During that Night, actions that player would take are prevented and that player is protected from kills from other players. Once per game, when your disgust reaches an absolute high, you may kill that player.

dont think its unlikely that happened n1?

[clonedcheese]

uh ok so i thought that through
and basically
i guess it just comes down to kill through PoE, with tmrw as XyLo?

i was in the shower and thought orange’s wincon of “if the game is canned you win” had an “alternatively” clause describing their sk-ness

[katze]

@clonedcheese

i was in the shower and thought orange’s wincon of “if the game is canned you win”

i thought this was a joke

is it not a joke