FAM Thread 2 (Day 2)

[Marluxion]

Leafia Amelia are two scum imo

[Vulgard]

You shooting Jane in retaliation is equally ass and likely to hit town.

Stop being stupid.

[Marluxion]

Leafia is basically open wolfing

[FoLAnnualMash]

ITA ANNOUNCEMENT

@KyoDaz

Do you want to know what I’m actually going to shoot Jane for that
I take full responsibility if they flip town

/ita Jane @FoLAnnualMash

Miss!

[Marluxion]

When leafia goes full denial Angy argue mode it’s basically a wolf claim

[Solic]

I guess I’m reading the rest too then.

Amelia feels like a commentator on day 1 rather than actually doing something on their own. On day 2 they pushed for a maxi shot twice. Don’t think I ever played with them, but I always thought they would be more capable than current capacity suggests, so honestly no objections to a shot.

Lemon

@Lemonfairy

@Solic

Lemon, null

wow someone made a read on me \o/

This kind of sounds genuinely excited. I’d wager scum would just prefer fading in the background.

@Lemonfairy

ngl I’ve been struggling to interact in thread and I should be posting more so people can read me better but I’m

f r o z e n

@Lemonfairy

low-effort read but making a wallpost about yourself is wolfy

/vote Tangeld

These votes were made way before EoD, so I don’t think they are too damning, but yea also not clearing.

@Lemonfairy

huh

@Lemonfairy What’s this huh about?

@Lemonfairy

hi I’m here again

Kind of mute response with 2 flipped scum out there. fairly sure lukundo and Lol had flipped here?

@Lemonfairy

Silviu - null
Appel - TL
Ici - SL
Joker - nulltown
Whys - null

Bit of a NAI list. tbh. Would be good if you can motivate all these Lemon.

@Lemonfairy

I didn’t read their entire ISO because it was very long but up to post 61 I found them to be scummy

• initially, they didn’t give a lot of takes and the thread-reading thing I found kind of weird (like talking about threadstate and not trying to get individual reads was like ??)
• I think they were overexplaining their Vul SR - which is something I’d expect from town only if they’re really convinced of their reads and not of an early D1 read
• they later asked to move on from Vul’s slot which I thought was actually kind of towny but it contradicts with what I’d expect from someone who’s convinced of the read (see point 2)
• I didn’t right details in notes but I thought post 1165 (from D1 thread) was defensive, and 1168 kind of backtracked on 1165
• didn’t like 1184
• 1235 I saw as a defense of self-meta, which was kind of scummy
• 1269 and 1282 were wolfy (forgot what they were tbh got lazy with notes)
• 1301 and then backtracking in 1319 felt kind of pockety towards Marshal?
• 1337 I found headgy and I thought 1366 was gross

that’s the end

This is a nightmare to read through. Without reading the Ici posts, it looks good though.

@Lemonfairy

/ITA Intensify

Still disagree with the Intensify shot, but this is at least consistent with the shotlist out there and their previous reads mentioned and the sheep meta that multiple of their home site members have mentioned.

Would not really shoot now.

Gods, please don't ask me to try and read PKR again :cry:

@PokemonKidRyan

PKR Basic Tierlist Reads

10
9
8 – Blizer, TL, Wazza, min
7 – Mist, Marl, Vulgard, gorta, Firekitten, Katze, Tangeld, Amelia, Whysper, astand
6 – Aelin, Kyo, Marshal, Nightingale, Joker, Wind, Arctic, Jane, Appel, eevee, Frost, Lukundo, Uni, Psyx, orange, Centuries, sulit, clonedcheese
5 – Solic, SDA, Emilia, Maximus, nutella
4 – Intensify, Italy, Silviu, Luxy, Ami
3 – Lemonfairy, Hippo
2 – Ici, GGhana
1

NGL, I thought firekitten was also FPSing, because they used to do so quite a lot back in the day and PKR is also from that time. It makes sense if they were also scumreading whoever Firekitten had claimed the N0 cop on.

@PokemonKidRyan

Since discussion has been on FK a bit, I’ll chime in with my own thoughts.

I actually do believe Firekitten is town.
However, I think they’re lying about their claim and/or result.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re trying to get people’s reactions then will start a wagon on Luxy come EoD.

@PokemonKidRyan

Because if I think FK is lying about their result…
Then it would be you as non-town.
(Unless I think lying about target too lol)

@PokemonKidRyan

Probably feels weird because I think Luxy might be a wolf and so decided to pop in here and try to logic it out in a non-effective method.

But sure, I’ll mention it later

@PokemonKidRyan

I’m just doing a fairly typical thing of picking 3 people and there’s probably 1 wolf.
The 3 I chose were you, Amelia and lemon for this.
I personally think Amelia is town.

Yourself and lemon both have wolf equity.
Yourself more than lemon though based on when I was skimming.

This is like a super weird coincidence for you to take this route, @Luxy clarify? I guess you don’t need to if it’s not helpful, since you’re confirmed, but uhh I sense more going on.

@PokemonKidRyan

I scumread their slot yesterday and I think others that I might have suspected a bit, like… @Lemonfairy aren’t as bad today as they were before. They’ve went up on my personal tier list due to reasons™.

Don’t know if PKR would hint at vague mechanical reasons for a read change if this didn’t actually happen, so it makes me townlean PKR. I think that’s not typically in their scum range.

Oh Vulgard had the same thought. That’s makes me think better about Vulgard in the same vein.

@PokemonKidRyan

I know they do but I have to decline to say what they are.
Trust me when I say it’s not nothing

[Icibalus]

nah kyo is a fairly decent shot

[Marluxion]

Ah well, nevertheless

[Marluxion]

One terrible shot begets another

[Jane]

I mean I also hate like all of their posts but people keep saying they’re Tan’s partner.

Shrug.

[Marluxion]

Nya

[Vulgard]

Mech Info

Source	Info
Mist	Kat got shot and saved (P#18 thread 2)
orange	Given a gift - unopened (P#29 thread 2)
Trustworthy	Voyeur katze - was investigated P#92 thread 2
Mist	Voyeur katze - was investigated P#112 thread 2
Esooa	Tracked katze - no movement P#113 thread 2
Mist	Saw protective and killing actions on katze P#115 thread 2
Marl	Shot at katze P#186 thread 2
Marl	Recieved motion detector P#279 thread 2
Icibalus	Voyeur katze - was investigated P#299
Icibalus	Can summon the moon P#366 thread 2
Arctic	Neighborized by CL P#490 thread 2
Vulgard	Flip-pertinent info - P#555 thread 2
Mist	mech reasons to not kill orange P#746 thread 2
Hippo	Forgot to night action P#808 thread 2
Centuries	Has something to do with omega abilities P#839 thread 2
Intensify	Voyeur - unused P#987 thread 2
Esooa	Neighborhood with Aelin P#1050
Icibalus	Her flavor is PKR, and she can’t claim anything from her rolecard other than summoning the moon P#3591 thread 2
min	Summoned NPC Trashman to kill Silviu at EoD2 - P#3607 thread 2
Luxy	Mech deduction from undisclosed info that there’s very likely to be a wolf between PKR/Amelia/Lemonfairy - P#3707 thread 2

Events

Events	Prize
sulit (SHEEP P#11 thread 2	Unclaimed
sulit (PFP Event P#11 thread 2)	Neighborhood with katze - N1 only
ArcticXI (PFP Event P#3754 thread 2)	Neighborhood with WindwardAway - N1 only

Shooter	Target	Result
orangeandblack5	lol	Miss!
Leafia	TrustworthyLiberal	Miss!
katze	lol	Miss!
Icibalus	Intensify	MIss!
Universal	lol	Miss!
GGhana	lol	Hit!
nutella	Intensify	Miss!
Solic	Icibalus	Miss!
Joker	Intensify	Miss!
nutella	Intensify	Miss!
ArcticXI	Intensify	Miss!
Lemonfairy	Intensify	Miss!
Frostwolf103	MaximusPrime	Miss!
WindwardAway	Intensify	Miss!
Esooa	Joker	Miss!
Aelin	Intensify	Miss!
min	Intensify	Miss!
min (silent)	Intensify	Hit!
Blizer	MaximusPrime	Miss!
Amelia	MaximusPrime	Miss!
(silent shot)	Luxy	Miss!
Whysper	TrustworthyLiberal	Miss!
TrustworthyLiberal	MaximusPrime	Miss!
Marluxion	Aelin	Miss!
Mistyx	TheLukundo	Hit!
clonedcheese	MaximusPrime	Miss!
MaximusPrime	Appelsiini	Miss!
katze	MaximusPrime	Miss!
an_gorta_pratai	MaximusPrime	Miss!
Centuries	Joker	Miss!
Vulgard	MaximusPrime	Miss!
Silviu200530	MaximusPrime	Miss!
PokemonKidRyan	Icibalus	Miss!
Italy	MaximusPrime	Hit!
Hippoyeetus	Icibalus	Miss!
Jane	KyoDaz	Miss!
KyoDaz	Jane	Miss!

Shot List (Taking Applications)

shoot (ordered)

• Joker
• TL

shots will be questioned heavily if they flip town but are still acceptable

• KyoDaz
• Leafia
• Universal

shoot until dead if Intensify flips wolf, reconsider otherwise

• Centuries

Still	Has	Shots	Left
SirDerpsALot	Appelsiini
Emilia
Luxy

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SAY SO AND PROVIDE THE POST NUMBER

[Vulgard]

Are we just going to ignore the fact Kyo’s shot was basically OMGUS and also off the list?

[Vulgard]

/vote KyoDaz

[KyoDaz]

Jane is practically on the list for shooting me and not anyone else on the list

[Marluxion]

@Vulgard

KyoDaz

Jane instead of kyo or neither imo

[Marluxion]

Yep that’s town in a nutshell baby

[KyoDaz]

How is Leafia still on the questioned heavily list?
The only thing I’ll be questioning heavily if Leafia flips town is them

[Solic]

@Marluxion

When leafia goes full denial Angy argue mode it’s basically a wolf claim

It’s really not though, but I’ve kind of experienced Leafia at their worst… in JOAT^2, where they also went full tunnel and were town.

so now I tend to just filter their posts and read others first

[Jane]

@KyoDaz

Jane is practically on the list for shooting me and not anyone else on the list

Dude wtf are you even talking about.