Fighting "he could be fool" as scorned

#149

Meta is cyclical. Always has been, always will be.

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#150

Then the current meta tells you whether a mute is likely to be fool, so it’s still readable.

#151

You misunderstand

What the majority does is what was the meta

What they don’t is the meta

It shifts and the cycle continues.

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#152

The fact of the matter is

Saying jack shit is a viable strategy to score wins as Fool.

That is clearly awful from a game design perspective.

#153

Anyways, I have finals coming up and need to study. I will not be reading this thread again for a few days.

If you have an argument as to even a single way Fool makes the game better by then, I’ll hear it out.

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#154

And, to reiterate, variety isn’t good just because it’s different.

Wish me luck on exams, chau nerds :stuck_out_tongue:

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#155

The meta is common knowledge, if fools thinks it will allow him to win by being mute than you can put yourself in his shoes and realize it too, and you are back at the “d1 im evil please dont exe me in case im fool” strat which doesn’t work for reasons explained twice already.

Good luck on exams, if you want try to your hand at rebutting my arguments when you come back then feel free

#156

And then we come back to our original point which is that Fool is brainless WIFOM.

#157

Because saying nothing is viable as Fool, it follows that saying nothing is viable as evil once everyone realises that is the meta.

So now we can theoretically have both evils AND fools sitting there being AFK, but somehow using epic reading skills we can tell them apart?

#158

silence on trial will remain a valid strat because of distracts and chill, even if you remove fool. If WIFOM warrants deleting a class then delete Hunter (arrow or no arrow? bear or no bear?)

#159

I’m totally up for deleting arrow.

#160

We did, but brought it back, remember? In my opinion it must stay in order to discourage vote-for-role.

#161

Yeah and I wish it wasn’t brought back. It doesn’t do a good job at preventing VFR anyways since like… Hunter’s will still claim on the stand?

Seriously how exactly does arrow stop VFR.

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#162

Well, the combination of arrow and decide fate actually.

#163

Decide fate mitigates VFR. Arrow does not any more than DF already does.

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#164

Decide fate alone can only kill 1, with arrow it can kill 2.

#165

And? 1 is enough

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#166

You said arrow doesn’t discourage VFR more than decide fate, I was just pointing out that without arrow the threat of decide fate would be cut in half because it could only kill 1 instead of 2.

#167

Yes please, at least Retribution

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#168

I believe I remember referring to that particular update as “worst update NA” at the time, and I meant it

There’s so many better ways to do that, many of which are already in the game, that the silly WIFOM threat doesn’t even do its job there