Jane’s reads:
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Regarding Light
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Regarding me
I’m unsure how to go about reading this. The final sentence confuses me xD
I believe this is a weak townpoint for an_gorta?
I wish Jane had more time in thread so I could see more of their thoughts 
Hindsight is 20/20
I feel I should take another look at Appelsiini, as my reasons to townread them are quite outdated, and I am having some paranoia currently.
All thoughts on Appelsiini are appreciated.
I feel like all my efforts are fruitless without being able to solve gorta’s slot.
I am incredibly frustrated!
i pretty much already did
shurian wouldn’t start the CFD to jane as a wolf when the wagons were already v/v since jane could have easily been vigged or killed today and it brings a lot of unnecessary attention to shurian for… literally no reason
i’m pretty much clearing shurian for this
however, there is a difference between starting the wagon and joining it
light’s progression at EoD made no sense
as i already pointed out he agreed with my take, said it was interesting, then… that was it?
he seemed perfectly fine CFD’ing to jane yet he never suggested a CFD himself despite saying he believed that me/marl were v/v
light - terrible EoD, a lot of coasting despite having conviction in the marl/me v/v read
i don’t want to kill anyone else in this list
i mostly TR illumin, except for when something really weird hapened where they were pushing min for encouraging a thunderdome between me and marl but then they suddenly stopped with little progression or explanation
welcome to forum of lies
I will not lie I am currently tossing around an Appelsiini/Light scumteam in my mind.
@Shurian you said you have prior experience with wolf-Appelsiini? Can you explain your read there please?
I find all of these points to be quite valid if you are indeed a villager, and that is about the extent of my thoughts on the wagons if so.
It’s hard for me to solve around VCA confidently when I’m unsure of your alignment, but this is what I was looking for. Thank you! 
I didn’t feel a need to explain my turnaround in the thread other than to apologize to min, as I realized I was being quite unfair towards them and I was becoming very emotionally tunneled. It was a heat-of-the-moment read that dissipated.
this is light’s EoD
he came in saying he agreed with my read, then said he was sure about be and marl being V/V, but didn’t start a wagon on anyone else, only joining the jane wagon
i feel like villager light probably would have had the confidence to start the counterwagon himself with this much conviction in his v/v read
actually, he didn’t seem that confident about it
but still enough to not sit around waiting for someone else to do something
@min I looked through your ISO to try to get into your mind and see why you believe there HAS to be a wolf between Arctic and Marl. To me it looks like you were much more certain in Marl being a wolf, but the fact that their interactions were ‘weird’ lead you to believe it was W/W or V/W. Voting Arctic today is the easy play, as it resolves the thunderdome, but it might not be the correct play, as I’m not entirely sold on Arctic being a wolf.
With Marluxion’s green flip, the W/W theory is negated. I’d very much like you to explain in detail what about their interactions struck you as having exactly one wolf between them, other than ‘gut’ and ‘this is weird’ because I can’t understand your EoD thought process, and it might help me solve Arctic’s slot.
There is a possibility that I’m missing something but I’m having trouble seeing why you are at this level of confidence, and would love insight.
(Especially for the fact that you die in almost all worlds tonight, and I want as many of your thoughts in the thread as possible if we have to go into a MYLO/LYLO!)
@Arctic
I questioned Light earlier about his EoD and this is the response I got. It seems this might be the extent of it when it comes to explanation, but I agree with you here; Light did not have a good EoD.
On another note: May I ask for a readslist? I would like to see where you are at in terms of reads!
I said nothing near this. I said that it didn’t make sense to flip you both back-to-back, and although I was suffering from a migraine debilitating enough that I had trouble looking at my phone, I had done my best to skim through Marl’s ISO and came to the conclusion that it was decently likely he was town.
yeah i realised you didn’t say you were sure about it, which is what i just fixed
…however i wouldn’t class this as ‘nothing near’
I know it’s difficult to think about when ISO’ing
But take a look at the time difference between these two posts
the problem was you acted in a credgrabby way so for when me and marl both flip v, without actually stopping/changing the wagons
I understand why you think that, and I really can’t offer you any evidence about what was going on, but it really doesn’t make sense: if I’m trying to grab cred, why would I go “now this is a wagon I can get behind” if I knew it was going to flip v? Why am I still defending you?
what
because you think i’m a villager?
this post just also spewed me town if you’re a wolf
