[FM] Mafia Academy 1 - Mafia Victory

[Maxwell]

This is going to be one of those games where I don’t have the time to contribute properly so I’m just going to share my class’s abilities now (but not flavor). Better whatever anti-claim nerf than being stuck in the top of the PoE the whole game.

I’m a TI. I target someone each night and receive the same feedback as any and all investigative classes that targeted them. If no investigative classes targeted them, I get one piece of random feedback.

I targeted Alice/Jake N1. The feedback I received was that someone’s target was targeted. No clue what that means.

[Vulgard]

@Mercenary

@Vulgard @PoisonedSquid Why did you choose to vote Aretted over PKRiestess?

I would have 100% voted PKR/Priestess there but I was offline at EoD and apparently so was Squid because she didn’t switch.
I’ll contribute more when I can - I can’t really answer any other questions now.

[JakeTheWolfie]

Do you think I haven’t tried? They haven’t responded for most of them. They haven’t even told me what they think of the current state of the thread.

[Marshal]

@Arete

He ended up settling on Maxi as his target to resolve to, actually. I’m scumreading Maxi by association at this point, but, like, if you’re going to lock us as scum for that you should definitely be looking at Maxi there as well.

It’s because I told him to. He then said he wanted to “let maxi choose(and not just give it to maxi)” after that, hoping he could find an out.

@Arete

Would like an explanation from @Marshal for why he went with that shot anyway

I was actually gonna shoot Alice/jake(made an Iso too, can post it) but switched last minute because of the white-knightyness of preistess on jake. It’s just… would preistess really tell me to stop being a meanie and stop hurting his feeling by asking him about the game if jake was her scumpartner?

I should have gone with my gut, but i let my doubt fester

[Mercenary]

Alice also slanked in her previous scum game but been very active in her last town game. It may be AI in the sense she is losing interest in this community and does not cares anymore.

[JakeTheWolfie]

Your doubt would have not been helpful Are you forced to kill someone or not?

[Marshal]

It’s not compulsive.

But it’s guiltless and a chance to narrow POE or just kill scum.

[Marshal]

Here’s the jake iso i made last night BTW

ISO of jake(which wont really be an ISO because lullockedthread)

Priestess/PKR Hydra (TownLean)

His preistess/Pkr read. Not immediately scum AI, but he does tend to hardbuddy his scummates(look at Sfol00 and sfol53 for evidence)

here’s an aretepost

current personal towncore is Vul and Astand with a few other candidates I see as likely to be added depending on how their thoughts progress here.

Here’s Jakes responce:

This seems like a reasonable towncore as of now.

And here’s jakes reads of vul and astand in the same post

Vulgard/PoisonedSquid Hydra (Nullread)
Astand (14) (Slight Scumread)

Is he even reading his own posts? This post(his reasonable towncore one) feels like one to agree with arete and not actually give reads.

jake’s ISO on me

Summary

He concludes “Townread” from this ISO. Which is full of shade on me and really not much else. This reeks of scum agenda, wanting me to be seen as a townread while consistently shading me.

Having to ISO like this is a bitch, so the last thing i’m gonna go on is the EOD VCA.

Nerbins was voted by Alice, Maxwell, Astand, PKreistess.

Jake did have a scumread on nerby in his ISO, but it was pretty damn weak. I feel like at least 1 scum went onto nerbo that wasn’t PKReistess. And i think that scum is alice/jake. I know jake gave some reasoning, but really, i don’t see much of a world where alice lets jake have the vote. This feels like scum piling votes onto someone who’s not PKReistess. PKReistess’s vote makes no sense when thinking about progression and etc, so it was pure scum motivation. And i think that scum motivation is wanting a buddy to not be lynched, and jake is the type of person to pull that out.

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It’s not great but i think i give some decent points

[Marshal]

@Marshal

here’s an aretepost

current personal towncore is Vul and Astand with a few other candidates I see as likely to be added depending on how their thoughts progress here.

Here’s Jakes responce:

This seems like a reasonable towncore as of now.

And here’s jakes reads of vul and astand in the same post

Vulgard/PoisonedSquid Hydra (Nullread)
Astand (14) (Slight Scumread)

Is he even reading his own posts? This post(his reasonable towncore one) feels like one to agree with arete and not actually give reads.

Read this if nothing else

[Arete]

Did you have any reason for not going with Maxwell like {Luxy/Geyde} asked?

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@JakeTheWolfie

Why are people scumreading me?

I’m personally scumreading you based on the very light distancing that was also very qualified between your slot and the flipped wolf. {PKR/Priestess} wasn’t just defending you (see my wallpost) – it sort of felt like they weren’t willing to fully commit to it, if that makes sense. You can get a better explanation in my wallpost if you want.

@Mercenary

Alice also slanked in her previous scum game but been very active in her last town game. It may be AI in the sense she is losing interest in this community and does not cares anymore.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think activity is alignment-indicative for her – she has scumgames where she topposts and town games where she slanks.

[Marshal]

@Arete

Did you have any reason for not going with Maxwell like {Luxy/Geyde} asked?

JakeTheWolfie:

If im honest, i didn’t really get scum vibes from maxwell. No town vibes either, so they were a nullread.

I was torn between jgoes and jake and went with jgoes, but i felt maxwell was the most likely to flip town.

[JakeTheWolfie]

It’s a reasonable Towncore to conclude. That does not mean I agree with it. Pray tell, how much would you want to kill Jgoes if I not only flipped town, but a Jailor?

[SirDerpsAlot]

Jailor is a good mafia role

[Arete]

@Marshal

I was actually gonna shoot Alice/jake(made an Iso too, can post it) but switched last minute because of the white-knightyness of preistess on jake. It’s just… would preistess really tell me to stop being a meanie and stop hurting his feeling by asking him about the game if jake was her scumpartner?

…Can you explain why you thought Priestess’s conduct towards Jake was white-knighty, and not her conduct towards Jgoes?

[Marshal]

@Maxwell

This is going to be one of those games where I don’t have the time to contribute properly so I’m just going to share my class’s abilities now (but not flavor). Better whatever anti-claim nerf than being stuck in the top of the PoE the whole game.

I’m a TI. I target someone each night and receive the same feedback as any and all investigative classes that targeted them. If no investigative classes targeted them, I get one piece of random feedback.

I targeted Alice/Jake N1. The feedback I received was that someone’s target was targeted. No clue what that means.

Also wait i was just ISOing maxwell and saw i missed this.

Does anyone have ideas of what that feedback means?

[Marshal]

because she never used AtE when defending jgoes. It was just “Jgoes good marshal bad but if marshal good jgoes bad”

Her interaction with jake was “Marshal megadouche for even daring to touch a little hair on his precious head, how dare he”

One of these felt like pocketing and one felt like scum agenda. I shot the scum agenda one.

[JakeTheWolfie]

It either means that I was visited, or that it is random feedback.

[Marshal]

This might be docter heal feedback(I remember something similar of a message in ToS) but that feedback was one from a scumsided neut so i don’t really know.

[Marshal]

or was it from witch?

Im trying to find it.

[Marshal]

Your target’s target was attacked last night!

Spy(town) feedback for bugging a doc and getting a success result.