[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[Alice]

Can you post a summary of where you’re at rn?

You’re basically one of my highest TRs here who isn’t being a dum-dum by making terrible gutreads or just trying to “solve” this game by mechanics.

[Icibalus]

Yes, it was just one of those funky spoilers without context that will really enrich your experience of reading the thread, I assume.

[Icibalus]

@Chloe

Can you post a summary of where you’re at rn?

everything is neat yet we keep losing
ergo there’s a deepwolf

[Icibalus]

my problem is that I’m having One Of Those Days™ where I can’t think straight and I keep getting angry about everything, but I’m at least trying.

[sulit]

you posted this

at

12am

no

[Alice]

@Arete

hm

Marshal is claiming to be converted

do we think this is likely to be true

I’d just ignore his logs entirely as it’s pretty obvious a WIFOM trap. Same thing regarding the soul exchange thing as I don’t think the majority of players here even voted.

[Alice]

@katze

the problem here is

we can’t know for sure whether or not marshal was converted

so… i don’t know who we lynch off of this

ATP I’m just going to rely on reads without bothering with mechanics.

Since D2 we’ve done nothing but engage in mech talk and we’ve basically ended up with 2 misrituals, 1 mislynch, and no information to show up for it.

[sulit]

I changed my mind because his wagon was gaining like zero traction and everyone nullscum read him

Whilst Appel and Apprentice wagons both got votes Napoleon and I were on him for post of EOD no one else was really interested in actually voting him.

[Icibalus]

i mean i forgot to vote
so that’s a thing

[Alice]

I voted Arete.

[sulit]

@Chloe

This player moves her votes a lot - and provides little to no reasoning for them. It’s a good look that they didn’t agree with an Appel lynch, and thought Appel would flip scum, but they did vote Appel at one point, without any reasoning from what I can find. Along with this, the swap to Jgoes makes no sense, unless I’m missing something, as she refused to vote Jgoes while her scumread was on the wagon, but once Napoleon moved off of Jgoes, she pushed him hard and attempted to get a CFD.

I didn’t want to vote Jgoes because there was no reason for me to move off of Napoleon to him

Near EOD I scumread Napoleon less and Jgoes more

I do move around a lot and change my mind a lot, especially D1

Unless I’m like hard tunneling someone

I also voted Appel because my read on them was far from strong and I didn’t like the way the votes were moving around at that time.

[sulit]

no clueeee

[Alice]

@Arete

if we don’t lynch Alice today I think we want her to use her self-resolving ability tonight

Marshal’s ritual gives the Heretics two factional kills and Alice self-resolving would, if she’s real, drop that to one

…except that lolstrongmankills

Doing it tonight. I also need to self-resolve myself as I’m probably a top convert suspect being that we’ve sacrificed two wolves this match.

[sulit]

How would

My n1 action

Influence something that happened the day before

??

[Icibalus]

hold on the rules say you have to make a self-resolving joke right now

[Alice]

I’m starting to think that he’s probably a starting wolf from this.

It also makes sense with him being a Shaman and either him/you/me being swapped.

So basically we need to deal with a starting wolf, a D2 convert, and a D3 convert, and the Traitor.

Ideally Marshal’s backreads should give us more info on who’s the starting wolf.

[Alice]

@Arete

actually

we have enough flips that we could potentially find the/a starting heretic by mech solving how the N1 kill was blocked

…I guess that won’t work because of the possibility of hitting the traitor, but

does anyone remember the night action list

Who did Ici and Sulit block? I’m pretty sure Marshal is a starting wolf here so if the kill was blocked by a heal than it has to be on Wazza.

[Icibalus]

Napoleon on me?

[Alice]

@Arete

DryBones’s anger about not being converted feels real here

I think that slot probably isn’t a convert

I think he’s still V for just going straight to a consensus villageread from the get-go.

@Arete

I’m trying to figure out if Wazza is TWTBAW or if he’s just a wolf

Probs a D2 convert. His posts recently have gotten insanely agenda-y.

[Alice]

@Arete

maybe

when I was Cult with Wazza in SFoL 51 we converted N.1, who townread both of us, but we had mech reasons for that

also I was the one making the decision

Imagine inviting both Cultists to your neighborhood chat for the first day.