[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[KyoDaz]

Redirects exist, there is 0 counterplay to Diviner ritual other than not getting them ritualed

[Italy]

cleanse

[Italy]

and diviners know if they’re redirected or stopped

[KyoDaz]

@Italy

cleanse

Is a horrible ability which should never be used over Soul Exchange.

[Italy]

soul exchange
cleanse
scum have plenty of ritual fuckery

[KyoDaz]

Okay, and it stops them from getting information
A mod revealed inoccupiable check isn’t exactly stopping information

[KyoDaz]

Only viable option here is soul exchange which is one time use.
I still argue cleanse should never be used

[Italy]

and you think that it being unoccupiable warrants fucking DEATH

[KyoDaz]

I do. It’s literally a mod revealed check. It can decide the lynch. It prevents a mislynch in some cases.

[Italy]

you can’t revive diviner’s ability
unlike most others, once gone, diviner is gone
FOREVER

[KyoDaz]

The check is reliable. There will be no converts up to date that are godfather. The only thing you risk is traitor. It is efficient and reliable. You cannot go wrong with it.

[Italy]

3/4 of the things diviner can do basically all end with them dead
that’s pretty fucking bad

[KyoDaz]

I’ve also said that their second night ability should not be used and it’s clearly a trap
Diviner should be played hidden

[KyoDaz]

Just because the setup doesn’t explicitly say “anti-claim is in effect” doesn’t mean anti-claim isn’t in effect or it’s a good idea to claim

[Italy]

THE FACTIONAL INVEST
IS NOT
A
FUCKING
TRAP
IT IS MEANT TO FIND THE MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSING FACTION
god fucking damn it

[KyoDaz]

I didn’t say the factional invest was a trap.

This is a trap

@N.1

Change of Faith (Night) - Select up to three players and check if at least one of them is a Heretic. If a Heretic or Traitor isn’t lynched tomorrow you will commit suicide. - 1 use.

This is also a trap

@N.1

Cleanse (Night) - Disable everyone’s Ritual abilities tomorrow, including The Heretics. 1 use.

Both of these abilities need reworks

[Italy]

ritual of truth needs a buff
change of faith needs a buff
abilities that end with you dead should be powerful

[N.1]

It’s also a trap for itself
Since it’s an omnipresent omnimiller
Lul

[Italy]

you should at least be able to call out the traitor with ritual of truth

[KyoDaz]

@N.1

Mask of Death (Night) - Attack a player. If they are successfully killed, they will appear as a class of your choice, and you will be able to write fake logs. - 1 uses. Counts as the factional kill.

This needs reworked as well for the exact reason Town of Salem disguiser needed one
It’s not a bad ability but it needs reworded to appear as class of your choice + remove their logs