[FM] Town of Salem 2 - Stalker, Executioner, and Shade win!

If you wanna vent, the discord has a channel for salt. I’m gonna re-eval some slots including tw1light for awhile until more people get on for discussion.

I thought we have a salt channel here in FoL anyway.

/unvote

Your still in my PoE and I still unsure of your slot, please don’t push this specific point more right now, its not helping my read or your slot.

but if it helps your reads or mindset, I’ll unvote. My read on you will only change with time and thoughts.

I’d like to see your thoughts on why Mode is a strong village read.

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for blue only

I hope you don’t let anyone bully you into submission. Do your own reads, friendo.

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Like, Marshal’s push on me was several times worse as you actually had some basis as a social read while Marshal and others is just playing this game like ToL where you lynch everyone who lied about their role despite that I’m known to be a heavy FPS’er. I mean, he even admitted to townreading me before I claimed Vet, but because I’m Alice then I must be scum because I’m FPS’ing.

Read LotR where I flipped off because of people pushing me for fakeclaiming despite correctly SR’ing Vulgard/STB/Dat.
Read Poisonous where I fakeclaimed Poisoner to help Eevee get correctly lynched.
Read FoL23 where I claimed Princess as a Prince so I wouldn’t get NK’d.
Read FoL20 where I fakeclaimed Hunter as a way to buy me a day to CS someone.
Read Anime where I was ML’d for fakeclaiming Loverizer.

It’s always the same fucking thing. Every time I FPS regardless of my intentions or results I get immediately SR’d because people here immediately accuse me of being a wolf despite the fact that everyone here FPSs.

Nobody hard-pushed Katze in Anime FM despite claiming a 3p with a hidden wincon.
Nobody hard-pushed Marshal for fakeclaiming BM and then walking back.
Nobody hard-pushes Eevee regardless of how insane his FPS’s are.
Nobody hard-pushed Meteoro for his fake reds.
Nobody hard-pushed Firekitten despite his tendency to FPS mostly as wolf.
When Kyo FPSs, people usually try other means to read him.

Hell, nobody is fucking pushing Katze because of them claiming Executioner in this exact game.

But if I fucking lie about the slightest thing I’m immmediately wagoned for it regardless of how obvious my intentions are.

I was never under suspicion nor had I any idea if a Vet rolled or not, so it’s absolute bullshit that just because I claimed Vet that it means that I’m scum that wanted to get the Vet outed. Why the fuck would I even potentially get myself lynched as scum to rolefish in a website where everyone fucking claims d1 or d2 either way?

Seriously, it fucking pisses me off to no end that I’m always lockscummed whenever I try to FPS as when everyone else FPSs they are immediately given a pass or people try to read them through other means.

But yeah, rant over.

Frankly I’m just pissed as hell for having to claim to out as now the fact that I’m a PR claim AND a common SPK target means that there’s no way that I’ll likely survive, and if the Coven has a roleblocker it turns me into a glorified VT.

It basically comes down to meta-reading as his village and wolf meta are extremely contrasting.

As a wolf he just keeps to himself while as village he just does his things without caring how he looks, like how he was pushing for the Mayor to reveal themselves for no reason.

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So if I insulted anyone here, sorry. But I’m just royally pissed off at how everyone here can FPS to their hearts’ content but when I do it, even if I did it in a very transparant way with good results or was previously TR’d, then I’m lockscum.

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how does one read oB_L1ght? He’s messing around a lot, with not a lot of thoughts until his wallpost.

In that wallpost he has majority of people in slight scumlean territory or scumlean territory

here, you townleaned him. Why?

This game does get stressful. It happened to me. So I guess I do empathise with how you’re feeling.

Aside from the decent tone the scope/depth of these reads are pretty decent. Usually wolves at his level don’t try to get the whole picture on the match in order to minimize their spew.

so i think the next question is a bit scummy and granted its not one i’d usually ask but

what do you think of the fact im only in 1 person’s(public) PoE?

Like, see what Kyo did in SFoL60 or Squid did in FoL27. Kyo basically spent much of d1 just zooming in onto Vulgard without bothering to fake a read on anyone else, while Squid didn’t really bother to go much deep into a read and just stuck to surface-level reasonings.

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to be fair the conditions in which you did this claim were probably the bigger issue here

and the fact that you lied about getting told what you won from an event

because you were proven to have lied about things, if i had lived to the next day i probably would have? regardless i had blatantly slipped as having been town prior in the game

i got nothing here

why does nobody care

what are the odds those were the exact two games that ive read/played in

can we not start this up again for a little while

like i get you want to explain your scumread but its gotten nowhere +EV for some time

please? just for a little while while we can discuss more then just this situation(at this rate this will be the only conversation)

actions speak louder than words

you keep claiming exe so ur on my exe radar

but u could just be joking

and so I am just gonna look at how you actually play things out instead of listen to your “lol im exe” shit

I think this solidify my read on you as V.

So there’s a concept called threadspewing in FM.

The fact is that most wolves don’t give out easy and strong townreads to their own partners because they fear that it may cause them to be caught if they end up flipping.

So if everyone agrees a player is a member of the town from the start this means that then all wolves are townreading them, and because of the previous axiom this means that odds are that they are not a wolf.

You’re very close to being threadspewed, so this is a good sign.

this isn’t what im doing at all though

i don’t even have a hard scumread on alice

I did it for the example. This is something that I usually search for when trying to find wolves and it works very often.

Usually they’ll have extremely narrow reads even until late-game such as focusing a very set of players or they won’t be able to go into depth regarding their reads.