[FM] Town of Salem 2 - Stalker, Executioner, and Shade win!

[TheBlueElixir]

fair enough, that was a summary

[TheBlueElixir]

kat, despite being read there, wasnt actually involved so I didnt get anything about kat there

alice + EV from that, doesn’t make sense and was forced

marshal +townie points, coven would be more likely to let that fly and criticize it later.

also I don’t think alice+marshal scum team is likely. they could’ve just explained the misinterpretation in scumchat and never have had alice look bad like that

[Marshal]

@TheBlueElixir

+ EV

I think this doesn’t mean what you think it means

[TheBlueElixir]

its like +townie points but the other way

am probably wrong

[Marshal]

yeah

+EV is + Expected Value

basically a +EV play is one that helps your wincon more than it hurts it, and a -EV is the opposite

[katze]

from a quick skim in RM4

in both read lists she made i was basically dead center

@Chloe

Katze: Null/Semi-null as I have yet to see any post from Katze that pings wolf or village.

@Chloe

This is usually because of your posting style and this happens in pretty much every game I’m in. You can check it in every game we’ve played together.

You kind of feel very monotone-ish at most times so you can’t be tone read and from reading your last wolfgame your wolf-range regarding fake-solving is actually pretty wide, so you’re in general a hard read.

@Chloe

How’s Katze regarding their tendency to FPS? From what I’ve seen them as V it looks like they do try a lot of unconventional strats as V. Does this hold true when they’re W?

@Chloe

So they have a very similar V/W ranges?

@Chloe

I have him slightly north of null rn. Katze is the kind of player that I’d rather wait a day or two before making any solid conclusions for the reason I said above.

Not sure why he’s being just globally townread here.

i will say that going into N1 of RM4 i had a moderately confident scumread on her going into N1 for a few reasons, much better reasons for why i scumread her incorrectly in anime FM

and at the moment i think she’s fine?

[TheBlueElixir]

note if your in my ISO that I thought +EV meant -townie points

thanks marshal

[Marshal]

wait so do you think she’s town here for doing something other than nullreading your slot?

[TheBlueElixir]

was alice town or scum there

[katze]

no, it’s a slight tonal difference

i’m not townreading her but im not scumreading her

i think she’s handling my slot worse this game but it’s not why im not SRing her

@TheBlueElixir

was alice town or scum there

alice was scum, i was traitor who entered scumchat on N1

all of those quoted messages were from D1, though, before i entered scumchat

[katze]

right now it’s more “do i believe she’s actually the class she claims” because i absolutely see a world where scum!alice claims it

[TheBlueElixir]

I mean claiming a role that directly tells investigators to not visit is

but I guess it makes sense given the role?

[katze]

exactly

as scum it tells invests to fuck off

as town it keeps nerds alive, because alice is a natural target

and i don’t think it’s an A or B question

[Marshal]

Scum!alice could be trying to bait out real vets here like in FoL27

[TheBlueElixir]

@katze

and i don’t think it’s an A or B question

oh? see, I don’t see a citizen claiming vet

so I would think it is, an A or B question, vet or coven

(also Alice is great scum but gets caught up by mech investigators)

[katze]

i mean there’s a decent chance that the d1 prince claim in fol27 wasn’t even to get italy to claim, it just happened to work like that because lolitaly

[Marshal]

Well yeah

but like in this game

I think it’s def a very high possibility

cause she knows how FoL27 went

and then we had an open mayor claim

[katze]

i could see citizen alice doing it as an FPS to live

[Marshal]

I think real vets should wait until there’s like 12 hours left in day to claim cuz if alice isn’t vet I see her being scum more often

[Marshal]

and then spew™