[FM] Zombie Arapocalypse Mafia - Game Thread - Canned

Can you explain your Zone read I asked about also?

I have to go and wonā€™t be back till EOD

I was hoping Iā€™d be able to play this but apparently Iā€™m really idiotic and have gotten myself mislynched twice in a row

Heā€™s just a villager lol

Why? Have you ever played with scum Zone?

Okay, but in all seriousness, Zone is a villager because even when he was in the whole ā€œlynching is -EVā€ fallacy state he was still trying to advance the gamestate.

Where are yours?

Well, I am quite confident that Simon and Magnus is town

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I donā€™t remember this but if Zone ever seriously considered a no lynch, thatā€™s counter to his values as a player and heā€™s much more likely to compromise those as scum than as town.

iirc he never considered nolynch, but it was more the case that he considered survival more important in this kind of game than wolfhunting because of the difference in game styles

Iā€™m calling that this is a reaction test, by the way.

You testing me by pushing me agressively on my Zone read would make sense since I fucked up majorly on faking that read in anni.

I agree that Sulit is scummy but we should look for others wolf as well

The easiest way to read Zone is to call him obvious town and not explain why. Itā€™s also the easiest thing to put every player with significant thread influence in your towncore or near it. Iā€™m obviously going to wonder what your motive behind it is.

But yeah I recognize theyā€™re not synonyms by definition. I just honestly donā€™t care about their definition. Language is defined by how it is used, as the be all end all. Definitions are there to serve and support that, not the other way around.

Iā€™m okay with that but when you use word choice like this to show that it becomes much less logically sound.

Word choice on its own is only solid evidence if the person in question is notable in using different word choice in the past. Otherwise, when on its own, I would argue that word choice is almost always NAI.
If youā€™re arguing tone thatā€™s one thing. But tone is more than a particular word choice in one place. Itā€™s punctuation, how words are used together, what they choose to respond to, and some other things too that are harder to put in explicit terms, too.

I will say I know this. Itā€™s not about the words themselves but the differences between the past and the present. My previous arguments still apply.

Itā€™s sad but thatā€™s not the wolfy thing. Multiple town have that standpoint right now, including people who are consistently town read, such as zone.

I have a town lean on him, but Iā€™m used to maneuvering plans around suspicious people, so Iā€™ll be fine. This is the misc-game aspect of this, where I have much more relative experience/skill.

no no no

itā€™s not that

My word choice reads are NOT meta reads.

Meta reads Are good

Word choice reads are pretty much exclusively meta reads. Doing anything else is not consistent for a given person

In this case*

Isnā€™t Zoneā€™s thread position more ā€œrationally self-interestedā€? Like he wants to survive as first priority but is still working towards the greater good rather than ā€œIā€™m getting car and leaving for Canada ASAPā€

Theyā€™re based on my understanding of a villager of a particular kindā€™s psychology.
Sulit is Level 2, so I read him from the assumption that he reads things seriously, which is backed up by his play in other games, and then I noticed he said something that was in character for a different kind of player, which indicated some kind of oddity in motivation, which when said in the context of the difference makes him wolfy.

That is NOT a meta read.