[FoL] Experimental Forum of Lies 2 ReDux - Unseen, Warlock, and Scorned win!

[PoisonedSquid]

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[Isaac_Gonzalez]

yea i am reading rn

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

@PoisonedSquid

Waste of Prince Resources - Now, it’s crystal clear that if Prince exes BD, then they lose all remaining uses of the Axe. Sure, if you Prince exe Met, then you’re guaranteed to have two exes left. However, if the Prince’s second exe is on BD, then the Prince will lose the remaining uses anyway. In a way, Prince Exes are simply lynches but with more risks. That’s why scumreading is as important for Prince jails as for public lynches. Do not treat Prince jails as an easy hack and slash role as that’s not what it’s meant for. Also, it’s more beneficial to jail a guy that can kill every night than a guy that is evil, but can’t kill or convert as with less KP, there’s less Town deaths.

if prince jails met and executes then we don’t have to waste a lynch on them and can instead read other people

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

also we can’t guarantee prince will survive the whole game so using the resources before prince potentially dying is good for us

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

right now we are using prince to execute you so we don’t have to lynch a scorned cuz that’s a waste of lynch

[PoisonedSquid]

The same logic can be applied backwards in most cases: If we lynch Met, then we don’t waste an exe and can save it for later

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

let me read some more

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

tbh later isn’t a thing for prince

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

i haven’t seen a prince type role survive the whole game (in fol)

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

@PoisonedSquid

Meteoro is Dead No Matter What - Yes, Meteoro is the highest priority to get lynched and executed. However, I know this possibility might be small, but there is a chance the Prince won’t jail Meteoro and instead jail someone else. Whether it could be due to a CFD or because the Prince would simply forget to change their target or was asleep is unimportant, but if that happens, then he and other scum will roam free making us have to waste another day to focus on killing him. However, if we lynch him today, then we know for certain that he is dead and we don’t have to worry about him possibly being not jailed because the Prince jailed someone else.

from the argument we had i really don’t think prince would forget to jail him

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

if prince forgets im dead irl

[PoisonedSquid]

It depends on the person and their playstyle (Aka Me, from my experiences)

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

they better not forgot or ima put him or her on the noob list

[PoisonedSquid]

Right now, the biggest wagon is on Met, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Prince doesn’t have time to change their jail target in the event of a CFD

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

@PoisonedSquid

Lynching Outside of Meteoro Brings a Higher Chance of Killing Two Unseen - This is not true. With applying the logic of “Met will be dead anyway” Lynching Meteoro and jail and exeing NK, Assassin, or NK also kills two Unseen/Scum, as long as two scum are dead, it shouldn’t matter how they die except that by jailing Assassin/NK/Mastermind, there is once again less KP and less people die.

this is true though because if prince jails and exes instead of us lynching then we can read other people and potentially get another unseen out of the way

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

@PoisonedSquid

Chance of Prince Killing NK/Assassin is Lower - Like I said, jailing also requires scumreading. The chance of lynching scum D2 without a redcheck is also at the same rate as the odds are equally the same. In more games than not, there had been more mislynches than proper mislynches, so this should not be any different. Either way, both actions require scumreading and there’s no higher chance of success for either method.

i don’t understand this tbh

[PoisonedSquid]

If Met flips, then once again, PoE can be lowered and we can read other people as well. Nothing prevents us from reading

[PoisonedSquid]

Isaac, from your experiences, which happens more often on the first day lynches are possible: A mislynch or a scum lynch?

[Isaac_Gonzalez]

a scum lynch that is usually me as the scum getting lynched

[PoisonedSquid]

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