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#2099

I don’t see why a two way kingmaker scenario is so much more frustrating than a three way kingmaker scenario.

#2100

For the record, the kingmaker scenarios are almost non-existen and even so it wasn’t like Neutral suddenly backstabbed BD.

I’m fine with Alchemist getting reworked. Remove? There is no reason for that.

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#2101

I’m pretty sure it only happens when the BD dies

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#2102

Oww, well he didn’t clarify it, so I don’t think so, but that would also solve it.

#2103

Maybe give alchemist redirection? He can redirect protectives to himself or killers to others to fit with a survivor objective

#2104

Make the Alch a neutral killer

#2105

Make alch Unseen Killer

#2106

I like the idea of making a JOAT BD CLASS, you could add a one use stoneskin, maybe a couple of healing options, class type potions, occupation potions.

#2107

And then he converts into a second assassin

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#2108

I combined all the ideas :^)
Although I’m not sure if the wincon is too easy or not. While it is technically possible for them to win N3 it’s highly unlikely and would generally be a lot harder than that I’d say.

The Alchemist

Neutral Special (or maybe Neutral Killer?)
Go Out With A Boom (Passive) - You die the night you complete your objective.
Extract Essence (Day) - Cause a player to bleed. They will die in two days if they are not healed. - 2 uses
Concoct Potion (Night) - Choose a potion from the list below to use tonight:

  • Crimson Potion - Heal a player (can be used on yourself) and cure their bleeding. - 4 uses
  • Emerald Potion - Kill a player. - 3 uses
  • Truth Potion - Discover a player’s faction. - 2 uses

KIll a player from every present faction (Blue Dragon, Unseen or Cult, and any Neutral) with your abilities.

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#2109

I think killing a neutral might be hard, but it is better

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#2110

Yea! I can’t wait to see when Alch is only neut who spawned beside NK.

Give him rights to be a suicide bomber

#2111

That’s why I gave them the bleed :^)

#2112

But that still be tricky to pull off

#2113

inb4 well it doesn’t explicitly say you can’t yolobomb yourself so ez neutral kill right there

#2114

Can make it 2 BD and 1 cult/unseen?

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#2115

That would work I think

#2116

I don’t like making alchemist a mini NK though.

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#2117

Yeah I’m still in favour of trying marl’s one first but I was just thinking about alternatives if alch is still america’s most hated :^)

#2118

But it can still win with either side. Perhaps give it the additional condition ‘Survive until the end of the game’