And then we balance off individual games and the cycle continues
Well I guess ToL helps here, at least you know by ToL how strong each power role is in practice (not only in theory).
It helps add to the basic out line of balance
We already agreed that the current fol is somewhere around the basic balanced range, but we donāt know where
Well we can compare it at least to ToL.
I guess FoL is a lot more swingier than ToL, since games in ToL tend to go long, and itās often not clear who will win til the end.
While we can end FoL games on D4, sometimes even on D3, since the outcome is clear.
Itās like flipping a coin. We can predict using numbers that the coin should always land 50-50 but in practice itās always going to be favored one way or another
what we are missing in our calculations is player skill, which is basically an unsolvable X in the equation
How to reduce swingyness?
FoL might be so swingy because it relies so heavily on social deduction would making the mechanical part stronger help here?
Social deduction doesnāt cause swing mechanics do
But what exactly in the FoL mechanics makes it so swingy?
I mean, itās rolemadness, sureā¦
and we even removed here some of the restrictions of ToL (like always having a healer)
But why is it so much swingier than ToL
Uhā¦ would going back to max. 2 pro BD class help here?
Have we ever thought about fol being the same swingy game as tol but since itās just longer phases + less games to go off of it seems more swingy
Itās like flipping a coin 7 times and another coin 100 times.
The 7 one could be way more favored to one side while the 100 is āSeemingly balancedā
ToL swing factor is pushed down by a lack of entirely optimal play as a result of turbo
Also what FK said
Not really. FoL games are almost always ending fast (even when you add +1 day, because we end the games earlier). While ToL games mostly end late.
Whatās the longest FoL we had in the last time?
We lynch every day they donāt
Hm, thatās a point to consider, yes. ToL is not only turbo, it restricts day phases.
ToL is much more mechanic heavy wich allows to skip lynches sometimes
itās much less social deduction focused actually
Yeah, itās pretty common for ToL matches to go until D4 before they actually have a lynch, and thereās almost never a D2 lynch.
Yeah most times we donāt execute on D2 and D3 in ToL.