FoL Feedback Thread

Forum Matches Forum of Lies
#13579

3 cult + Prince + bd sided neut
Prince jail exes CL
Noone can vote
Prince jail exes CL
Prince + Neut vote out the last evil

#13580

If the game is provably unwinable for one of the factions without throwing, the other remaining faction should generally just win.

1 Like
#13581

If the cult left the Prince for last thatā€™s on them lmao

2 Likes
#13582

The rule typically used in FoL is that the game is called when one faction can no longer win

Assuming the NK is out, this is often but not always equivalent to parity ā€“ for instance, if you have a Knight, a Prince, a Cult Leader, and an Apostle alive, BD can still win, but if you have a Mastermind, an Assassin, a Servant, a Butler, and a Sheriff alive (no King because everyone forgot to vote) then Unseen always wins unless they gamethrow, so thereā€™s no point in continuing

2 Likes
#13583

Just never call it too early, when bd can still win, cuz that damages the game
Yknow what I mean

#13584

Or, for instance, if you have a Mastermind, an Assassin, a Servant, a Sheriff, and a Merc (Sheriff is the only living contract), then BD cannot win, even though there is a neut alive and they can side with BD

if you have a Cult Leader, a Sellsword, and a Paladin alive, then you shouldnā€™t call it, because the Paladin could convince the SS that they are the true CL

#13585

I donā€™t think anyone disagrees with ā€˜donā€™t call it if BD can still winā€™

1 Like
#13586

Yeahā€¦ Tho it can happen when the hosts are no mechanics nerds

#13587

anyways class time now so Iā€™m not going to respond for a bit

1 Like
#13588

I acknowledge that technically there was a path to victory for BD in FoL 24 but I think calling it was reasonable even if technically a moderror

#13589

The main argument against not calling games that are basically decided is that it can be used to derive information

for instance if you have a Mastermind, Assassin, Servant, Sheriff claim, and Butler claim, and the hosts would end the game if all those classes were telling the truth about their class, then if the game doesnā€™t end it can be deduced that someone is lying

1 Like
#13590

Clearly the Assassin is lying

2 Likes
#13591

Heretics have the gut to claim like innocent child, this is why I am defending Derps at Day 3 previously so hard.

Marshal only had to kill him the next night, it does prolong under different circumstances.

#13592

Clarification of plurality lynching and ties

To the extent that this is a change, itā€™s a change that was made in response to FoL 24 ā€“ but Iā€™m not sure if it was ever officially announced, so weā€™re clarifying now.

  • If a tie for most votes happens at EoD between two or more players, taking into account all voting modifiers, then the lynch will be randed between those players, with each player having an equal chance of being lynched.
  • If a tie for most votes happens at EoD between one or more players and No Lynch, the lynch will default to No Lynch. This is to prevent situations such as a 1v1 that literally becomes a coinflip.
#13593

Hot take

Defaulting to the first thing to get to the tie amount is a good-sounding system that is worth trying

2 Likes
#13594

Kinda meh when Its 1 v 1 or 2 v 2

#13595

i like this more than rand

but when itā€™s like hja said 1v1 or 2v2 then yeah not great

maybe this system but nolynch always wins rands

1 Like
#13596

That was implied

2 Likes
#13597

Anyways Iā€™m not convinced punishing less active players in direct ties is worse than randomly punishing players

#13598

Weā€™re already bad enough at moderror-free VCs and now you want to add actual stakes beyond just ā€˜make absolutely sure that youā€™re right about who everyone is votingā€™?

1 Like