- many people don’t enjoy the game in current state structurally
- you can’t fix the game structurally without it not being ToL anymore
- it’s broken, annoying, and removing ‘unfun’ shit won’t resolve core problems
People join FoL because ???
“Fun rolemadness setup”?
If it was fun then we wouldn’t be getting tons and tons of valid complaints about the game trending significantly one sided
It’s a mash in terms of overall power without actually having many of the mechanics that make mashes work (like splitting up that power across a ton more players)
It has mash level kp which, if it goes off, make the game end extremely fast
It has stupid level scum rigidity because otherwise offensives would be literally anti-town in all instances
Ergo to allow scum to kill important targets, you need to give them ways to get around this stuff. Which makes supports significantly worse.
Investigatives are stupid and only add to the highroll nature of this game being extremely high
BD killers are dumb. Plain and simple. They are what happens when you take a shit on a setup and then you send that pile of shit setup to #feedback-balance so they can proceed to ruthlessly apply the scientific theory to make the setup even shittier. They have the most stupid mechanics by far and only create more issues.
Wowee NK
Wowee rigid scum
Wowee ALL OF BD
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FoL doesn’t work
And people aren’t okay with that
Then I ask
WHY IS FOL A ROLEMADNESS SETUP STILL
And if someone dared to suggest that, the world would decry
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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Wowee
I bet all of you think haha geyde made that poll with a self vote in it
he’s clearly ate’ing and not being serious
well
you’re right
but me dying inside right now is completely genuine
Geyde finally understands my anti-FoL-existy viewpoint
I think FoL sucks
and like, it still gets signups but also it takes up a spot on the queue from a game that is anything that is not FoL
so yes
delete FoL
add bimonthly marson game with ToL flavor
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I consider an entire butchering of FoL as a completely valid option in order to make the game more playable, focusing on the social aspect of the game much more
This way, the game can be more skill based and less reliant on a bunch of buttons working out in your favor
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I always have hated FoL
why do you think I wanted to pawn it off to someone else for the past 6 months
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I do all this work just to have it all crumble on me
Like NOTHING MATTERED
and it didn’t
I just polished a turd
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im putting random numbers because i cant make up my mind on half of these
remove alch
archer has a 1shot vig
butler has a 2 shot occ
chrono has a 2 shot tw that can target self
constable has a few (idk how many) use alignment cop
cw has a 2 shot magical barrier
drunk has a 1shot deb
hunter has 1shot pgo
knight has 1 defend
maid i dont fuckin know
mystic can neighborize 1 person
noble has either like 2shot gossip or 1shot bounty
observer has a 2shot tracker or 1shot watcher or some shit
phys has a 2shot heal
priest idk
prince is a banana
princess has 2shot flirt
tk has 1shot busdrive
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or just keep fol and let people who wanna play it play it
because those people do exist
and make a separate thing for
fol 2.0
Ah yes
Keep them separate
Then people wonder
hey I really enjoy highly mechanical setups
fol sounds fun
i’ll join
proceeds to get annoyed by fact that there is no highly mechanical rolemadness game
yes
but
that draws people from other games and I think FoL is like, the lowes of the low, and if it was asked to honestly pass a review for a regular FM game (not FoL or SFoL) I don’t know if it would