[FoL] FoL 21 - End Game Discussion Topic

There’s no reason to be mutually exclusive if you need to use a particular line, use it.

Wolves usually don’t try to sort if it’s a FPS as they know that there is a very high chance of the check being real.

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Why wouldn’t wolves just act as villagery as possible and give off the sense that it’s bullshit? I don’t see why it’d end up polarised as an equilibrium

Because it’s usually at the heat of the moment and there is little pre-planning here.

Most players aren’t at a skill level to fake reactions like that.

I actually do as both.

Because of how I play scum and town both fake red checks on me a lot.

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One thing I’d like to point out is that it’s important to establish a unique style rather than simply copying stuff from guides. The best players don’t think the same way as each other, they all have their unique ways of thinking about things, and by establishing a somewhat unique style your skills will probably improve as you get to understand how you and others perceive things in a way that dosen’t happen if you focus on imitating good players and their reading methods.

Apologies, I wasn’t trying to discuss a practical take to it, I meant at a game theory optimal sense that the reaction to a red check should be a merge rather than a polarisation

Obviously, Level 3s generally know what they’re talking about and you should take their advice, but to become truly good you have to become your own player rather than Alice 2.0 or MathBlade 2.0, simply because different minds read different posts differently.

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And know I am swingy as hell.

Some games I am really right and others really wrong.

I have had mashes and name like 8 scum in a row
And some games 4000 posts not a single scum vote

Good != right != sheep

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Mainly just keep talking

Ironically I think I’m a better scum player atm when my preferred alignment is town lol

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Which brings back to Marcus’ question about playing as wolf when you have reputation for strong reads.

Even strong players are often wrong. But in order to read them you should check if their logic was correct and if they accidentally just got to a wrong conclusion of if their logic was intentionally faulty.

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This could just be because I was LW recently though, completely different ball park

Also, the “I have a red check on you” as a response to “I’m reading up now” thing worked wonders back when it was first used but since it’s the most obvious reaction test in the book it works nowhere near as often as it did when it was first tried.

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“I just submitted my action for a dayvig on you.”

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I do recall reading somewhere that say for example lynching someone because you dislike them as a player and they end up being scum.

This actually isn’t anywhere close to good villa play

when I played on ToS originally that reaction test had been successful so many times that it was just a meme at the point I started playing

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Tfw a post game discussion devolves into talking about mafia theory

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The only good policy lynches are where somebody’s reads are terrible AND they’re impossible to read. Any others are invalid. Even then, you should probably try to lynch a wolf instead and leave policy lynch targets to be policy vigged instead.

What this really means is: don’t do shitty policy lynches thanks

Yeah, if a PL ends up hitting a villager then you can’t discern motivation from it as wolves have an excuse to be on the wagon.

Suggesting a PL for me is an immediate red flag as most of the times that I’ve seen players go for a PL they’ve almost always been wolves, and the good thing about it is that this always spews the policy lynchee as a villager.

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