[FoL] FoL23 - Day 4 - The Unseen and the Fool win!

[anon97870008]

@JakeTheWolfie @sulit

And it’s me again. We need another replacement.

[anon97870008]

Geyde got replaced by @JakeTheWolfie .

Like always, discussing replacements is forbidden.

[Wazza]

As the day woke up, you all looked around noticing the bodies that were found, and they were asleep and sound.

”You’re probably right about there being a Traitor. There’s 3 of them dead now, there’s only 10 left.”
Priestess said, as Wazza patted her on the back and walked over to the bodies.
”Poor people. Didn’t even see it coming. Victim 1, htm, an Archer for the court. Victim 2, Arete, the one up in the stars and the final victim is eevee, Wait- THEY WERE A TRAITOR! YESSSS!”
WazzaAzza is happy.

Htm has died! They were:

The Archer

Blue Dragon Killer
Multi-shot (Day) - If you fire an arrow at one of your marks tonight, remove all marks and attack any other player whose mark was removed. You are immune to redirection this night. - 2 uses
Eagle Shot (Night) - Fire an arrow to kill your target. This ability is disabled if you kill a member of BD with it. - Infinite uses
Bulls-eye (Night) - Place a mark on target player. A marked player is no longer passively death immune. You may have up to three marks. Targeting a marked player with this ability will remove the mark. Targeting yourself will remove all marks. Marks disappear on death or class change. - Infinite uses
Defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any Neutrals that seek to do you harm.

We found following logs on them:

Logs -
N1 - Nothing

Arete has died! They were:

The Knight

Blue Dragon Killer
Armored (Passive) - Your first successful use of Defend will not kill you.
Defend (Night) - You will guard the target player tonight, giving your life to kill their attacker(s). - Infinite uses
Cold Steel (Night) - Choose a player to attack. If they are a member of the Blue Dragon, you will also take your own life. - Infinite uses
Your objective is to defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

We found the following logs on them:

Arete - Knight

N1 - Defend Teleology

N2 - Defend Teleology

I think Alice is powerwolfing. She took what was clearly going to be a lynch on Datbird, her likely scumbuddy, and turned it into a lynch on Lymphoma with questionable justification; she was hesitant to even believe the check on Datbird; she wouldn’t create a nightplan for if Lymphoma flipped BD, leaving the rest of us kind of stuck; her progression on Datbird feels kind of unnatural. I’m not betting the potential lives of two BD on it, especially since if she’s the Mastermind she’s Death Immune anyway, but I am putting this at the top of my readlist because it’s important. The so-called Wisp on HTM is probably actually a Foresight, where convert immune gets Wisped as Neutral and not that gets Wisped as BD. Could in theory also be N1 convert, but I don’t think that’s actually what’s happening – I think she was softing a failed N1 convert.

Other reads:
Townreads
Eevee: Is the Prince. Unless they’re faking Prince for some reason (e.g. knowing Sogman was Prince based on process of elimination), which we should be able to figure out pretty quickly.

Jake: I was townreading Geyde, and given that they’re the Priest and said they would prove themself tonight, I’m inclined to trust them. Obviously there exist people who fakeclaim Priest but I’d be pretty shocked if that’s what’s happening. The galaxy-brain tinfoil theory is the one where they’re the MM and someone else is a Soulcatcher, but I’m calling that one tinfoil for a reason.

Teleology: yep she’s still BD

Ozzkozz: Townie as of D2, but if evils missed the N1 conversion they’d be a likely N2 conversion, since most people are going to be inclined to view them as “proven” (though I’m inclined to think they’d go with one of the various more powerful converts)

H_Hja: Can’t be Unseen (Datbird is Assassin per Ozzkozz, and the jail would block the N1 conversion) but could in theory be the NK if it’s a Demon game and we were somehow wrong. Still, that’s pretty tinfoil, and I’m inclined to say that they’re much more likely to be a real Hunter.

Maxwell: This might be because of my tunnel on Alice, but Maxwell seems pretty BD to me based on my Iso of him. I could be totally wrong, but his jumping on the Datbird wagon doesn’t really feel like a bus to me. Obviously if Eevee dies that’ll be a pretty strong indicator that they’re scum.

HTM: More or less self-resolving based on whether or not Datbird is dead, especially if we count the other kills and see if there’s still an NK kill as expected. I’m inclined to think Alice will out truthful results on HTM as well, even if she is as I suspect scum.

SirDerps: I was scumreading them D1, but I think based on their D2 Iso they’re just confused newbie BD. There is some possibility of them being the NK (particularly since they’re coming from ToL, where Chrono is kind of a meta claim), but I’d say it’s very unlikely that they’re groupscum. Them being the NK could explain the weird kill on Sogman (if it wasn’t someone mistakenly picking up on a Prince soft). If it turns out that Sogman was Possessed I’d say they’re cleared from that as well – I don’t think someone would Possess someone with the goal of framing themself, that would be really weird.
Scumreads
Possessed: If we’re going to get really tinfoil, this could be a Warlock who was bled D2 after being convert immune N1. At the very least, that’s what totally random and unexplainable D2 bleeds usually mean in FoL (convert immunity, that is). We can probably make a guess at this based on where they redirect Datbird to – if someone in the PoE is dead, or Datbird looks to have been straight-up HH’d, they’re probably fine, if not, they’re likely scum.

Kape: Still kind of reads as EK to me, to be honest, but at this point in the game I don’t think that’s quite worth worrying about yet. Even if he is, scum still shouldn’t have votes tomorrow, I don’t think .

Alice: Explained above.

DatBird: Basically lockscum, specifically lockassassin.

I think the NK is probably hiding somewhere in my townreads. I’m weirdly confident in my Datbird/Alice theory, which of course means that it’ll inevitably explode in my face. I’m going to feel really dumb if Alice is BD and dies tonight because I didn’t follow her nightplan.

Eevee has died! They were:

The Demon (Unofficial Class)

Neutral Killer
Cloak Of Mithras (Passive) - Immune to death at night, occupation and target changing. In addition you are immune to bleeding and will be informed upon being bled.
Brand of Sacrifice (Day) - Bleed target player. - 1 use
Haemophilia (Day) - Increases the power of Funeral Pyre tonight. - 3 uses, 1 day cooldown
Funeral Pyre (Night) - Set your target ablaze, killing them. If Haemophilia is used, the target is immune to visits from others except you, and anyone who attempts to visit them is also killed by the flames. In addition, Funeral Pyre will bypass death immunity on the initial target and not count as a visit. - Infinite uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon, Unseen, Cult and any neutrals that dare stand in your way.

We found no logs on them.

Day 3 has began and will end in 72 hours.

[DatBird]

well yeah, not dead yall

[DatBird]

so hows it going gamers

[DatBird]

@Wazza

Scumreads
H_Hja: Scumlean. Posts so far in this thread have been mostly fluff with a few weak reads, and there aren’t so few of them that this is purely due to inactivity.

Kape: Lean EK. Got a bit more GK-acting after I said I was reading him as evil, but this seems more like an attempt at covering for showing his hand so early than a genuine attempt at actually being BD!Kape.

SirDerp: I’ve already outlined my reasons for scumreading SirDerp. I think if they’re scum they’re either MM or CL (hence the request that knights and archers attack them – FoL CL is apparently DI until they get their first convert). If they’re CL, there’s a good chance there’s a ritualist running around.

didnt make the scum reads but…

@Wazza

Datbird: Seems very gamesolvey, with strong reads and decent progressions. Not really much to say here. I would be very surprised if Datbird turned out to be scum.

made the town reads

[Possessed]

Is Eevee a fake flip? Yikes.

[Maxwell]

My heal attempt on eevee failed.
His flip was either faked, or he was jailed and executed by the real prince.

[Possessed]

Unless real prince killed Eevee.

[DatBird]

Is Ozz a fakeflip, is HTM a fakeflip, is Arete a fakeslip, is Datbird actually alive

[Possessed]

@DatBird

is Datbird actually alive

Prob not kappa

[DatBird]

oh no. Well GhostBird is here, and he aint leaving

[Possessed]

@Maxwell

or he was jailed and executed by the real prince.

I think this is it. Faking Prince is one of the worst moves you can honestly make though.

[Alice]

I think Lymph was a Fool.

[DatBird]

implausible

[Alice]

Would explain why both Arete and HTM died as they may have been redirected to themselves.