Ah I see nvmd understood it wrong
I mean
ādidnt like RT=doesnāt need to read meā
I thought he was saying I was in a scumteam with Blizer
possessed is an OBJECTIVELY BAD LYNCH, he gives nothing to really work from which going into day 3 we cant be faffing about in the dark with no actual worthwile analysis from the lynch
Iām still voting Blizer because he is one of my top townreads
Iet me go through CRich d1 again to doublecheck
when i read his posts earlier, yeah there was his reads on inactivity, but he was also reading the thread and other people at the time, and his reads from what i remember reading him from yesterday were solid, and his tone felt natural
nothing felt out of place tbh.
Then talk to the people voting possessed then IMO
Well I said anything, not groupscum. If we got NK lynched, you basically become the NK as well.
its almost as if people can read on their own
also I have found Aliceās behavior a little off so far.
she is not leading, just contributing in very small ways and then leaving
Im hesitant to agree seeing as you didnt read my opening on why I was voting Possessed but w/e
Scumreads??
No, townreads
crusader takes the wincon of the person they lynch
I know, we discussed that, we wonāt discuss again just to clutter
Explain?
gutread mostly
nothing really to explain
but Alice isnāt making open accusations, just making small pushes here and there
she was making small steps towards accusing me since yesterday even after almost everyone found I was townie
it feels agenday
This was prior to the ClonedCheese accusation.
katze:Out of curiosity, how do you two plan on reading Feathering and the other new player?
The same as i read other people. Speaking of which, I donāt think these two slots are starting group scum.
Their posts donāt show signs of being rehearsed, which should be there if either one of them were starting group scum.
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Gorta is probably a townie here. Iāve noticed that Gorta is good at reading people as town, even though he isnāt good at expressing them in his posts.
Arete:Alright, Iām going to pull an Alice-in-Insurgency and post my pre-written wallpost on How To Not Lose For Dumb Reasons. (ā¦hopefully this will go better than in Insurgency )
[/quote]I think you could just say ādonāt over rely on good players and just solve for yourselfā
TheBlueElixir:I did see my classcard before writing this but I came up with the ideas beforehand so ima go ahead and call it NAI
im gonna try to play this game a bit more separated from my slot. I have trouble distancing myself from it in the past, with my WiM and how I go about the game tied to how im read. I tend to also be a high poster to towncore myself.
I think I could play better with none of the above and Im going to try to do that
This opener feels off (I will say more about TBE later)
Blizer:TBE is pinging me as scum trying to fit in and looks like hes pushing discussion forward. But, his response to Jane`s attempted reaction test on Merc contradicts what his earlier posts on stating him trying to push discussion more. Hes trying to look like hes town pushing discussion, but it feels hes making it slow, or has brought up discussions that should not be discussed.
This could be TBEās new playstylen, but his opening posts did feel off
TheBlueElixir:what was everyoneās last played game
what did you learn from it?
61.5
That over reliance on good players is bad and that we shouldnāt be as trusting katze:Because a player was miscleared. Iām not sure why Katze was cleared that match and people pretty much ignored Ans after he bussed CRich.
I said we were misclearing someone and pointed to Ans being the miscleared one, but no one agreed with me until it was too late.
Jane:Uhā¦ gamblerās fallacy dictates this is likely a Cult game.
Jane is a WOLF WOLF WOLF (JK, and thatās enough meme posting)
katze:Also Jane would probably look worse FMPoV if this is an Unseen game.
I could see that
Arete:ā¦I donāt see a difference
is that bad
I think there is a difference, donāt know if itās a good or bad difference
Arete:or I guess a better question would be āwhat do you see as being the differenceā
Itās his whole tone, it seems off, which could come from a different playstyle, but I wonāt dismiss it as just a āchange of playstyleā
katze:Seth looks villagery so far, but w/e.
I thought the same thing about Seth in 61.5, but I wonāt act like Seth is scum right now
Feathering:While I donāt know how to read Alice much, her attitude during today seems Towny and from where I came from sheās been acting with Town motives and wanting Town to stay on track.
She can fake that
TheBlueElixir:warning: its only going to have like 2 actual reads
post em anyway
TheBlueElixir:I didnāt expect to be barraged by half the game for not putting an hour into readslist ISOs made an hour into the game because Im not progressing the game state while chat is abnormally slow so early
I think you could form some possible scum teams and get quite a few reads off of whatās available
katze:All I have to say is ālolRTā and suddenly my allegedly disingenuousness read is all okay?
You do know I will have a hard time ever trusting you
Marshal:nah arete might not have randed villager
Itās possible, but I think there is possibly a wolf between you and Arete.
katze:Meh, I think youāre prob V tbh. Youāre not really trying to go UTR with your reads and youāre taking better stances.
Stuff like this makes me conflicted over TBE
Feathering:Null reads seem pointless.
They mostly are late game
Mercenary:I believe Blue is LHF/new enough on FM that it can be passed over.
Blue is usually pretty towny out of the gate, but no so much here.
Arete:like ā¦ itās the sort of post you write when youāre scum and trying to pocket someone? if that makes sense?
They did make an entire post reading merc as town, read into that as you will. Itās a possibility
katze:Iā¦ was kind of expecting people to call me out on doing a 180 on my read on him with little explanation? I canāt tell if my fake read was too convincing or if thereās something else going on?
Itās kind of expected from you Katze
CRichard564:as I donāt think heās faking annoyance here.
Annoyance can be faked
Arete:how much of this is just that sheās scumreading you
Katze and Marshal are never W/W here
This wall post in particular is what Iā'm talking about.
Hi Merc, who are your town reads so far?
Your scum reads too if you donāt mind?
I could be imagining it, yet TBE seems to be acting a little different from his past town games.
TBE was obvious town in SFoL 61.5. Mind you I was starting wolf that game too, yet he hasnāt answered my question on who his town and scum reads are yet.
So far I can safely eliminate Mercenary, AtNoName and possibly Feathered as starting group scum from their ISOs. Their ignorance over game mechanics shouldnāt be there if as group scum, their partners told them about the mechanics of this game.
Iām think Katze is likely town from what Iāve said before. Once she stops memeing and starts being serious playing the game, thatās town Katze as Iāve seen before in ToS 2.
Like, these posts his Rich going through the thread, and reading people from their behaviour and interactions, which is pretty solid imo, nothing is wrong or sticking out from these posts to me, and nothing involving activity from these posts.
I didnāt like your entrance as well. Though I suppose it was a little unfair to call you out for slanking when real life gets in the way.
Mind you, your entrance isnāt too different from SFoL 61.5 when you were town.
This is her first post when it comes to Activity being AI, but even then rich understands about RL stuff, and was mostly talking about Chesse`s entrance into the game.
Yet so far FrostWolf has been slanking today.
Probably real life stuff such as sleeping.
Talking about Frost not really having thread presence d1
again not scumreading it, but is assuming its RL stuff.
If I didnāt know any better, he reminds me of his executioner game in ToS 2. He might be some kind of neutral.
This is the first time Rich does assume someones role based off activity (Which yea, isnt the best), and i know there are people who read others based off their activity, which is what Rich is doing here with Frost.
Possessed being inactive when that is a scum tell isnāt a good look on his slot.
If anything I suspect the wolves are not controlling this thread.
Where is Possessed? He made a comment about how Iāve improved my posting style and now heās gone without providing reads? Iāve been told that activity tells can be used to read his slot .
Yeah Poss came in, complemented her posting style, then when she states that his inactivity is a scum tell (Inactivity is usually NAI imo), but afterwards Poss shade throws her for this post, and his behaviour and tone shifts quite noticeably after this post imo.
Like, there are only like 4 or 5 posts where CRich uses inactivity to read people, but the rest is her actually reading the thread, and people, and giving her thoughts on everything
It Feels natural, and nothing heavily pings me in anyway.
Townlean imo
Yeah I took my time to read into that