[FoL] Forum of Lies 29 - OVER (9/18) - CULT FOOL WIN

[katze]

no

that isn’t the problem

@katze

you’re hardclaiming a N1 gossip on Arete with no feedback?

@TheBlueElixir

yes

nothing happened to arete

[katze]

@Marshal

Frostwolf has died! He was…

The Princess

@Marshal

N1 - Will-o-wisp Arete - Blue Dragon

[TheBlueElixir]

huh

@Marshal

N1 - Will-o-wisp Arete - Blue Dragon

oh

lol

well its wrong

[katze]

we were talking about this all day

and you’re just now bringing it up

aaa

[TheBlueElixir]

yes

I forgot about it once arete flipped occ/red immune and I had no feedback anyway

whoops

[katze]

if your first post of the day was “i gossiped arete N1 and they had no invest” then i’d trust this a lot more

my question is “does TBE directly contradict a flipped villagers logs on purpose”

because if your logs are real then we have confirmation that Frosts flip is faked, which heavily implies Arete was actually the NK

[katze]

your bounty is convenient and your explanation has a tiny bit of merit to it

but it was suboptimal

very suboptimal

[Amelia]

So in summary tbe should probably be left to die :^)

[katze]

kind of

yes

[TheBlueElixir]

ruh

well

it probably should have been

but no

[Vulgard]

@Appelsiini

@Vulgard Why would you check PKR if you thought he is ‘so pure’? This makes no sense and is a clear contradiction.

@PokemonKidRyan

@Appelsiini it seems I remembered correctly.
It was because of ATs flip

Yeah, pretty much this. I thought I misyeeted and AT didn’t realize his results contradicted PKR’s… well, everything.

@katze

Vulgard on D2

Well, I would’ve claimed if I’d been going to get yeeted, but I didn’t plan to just let it happen despite what I said.

Don’t know if I trust Calc’s claim, it’s the easiest claim in the world for a wolf in their position.

@katze

the tiniest Possessor!Vulgard tinfoil exists in my head

I wish, I’d love to play NK again after such a long time. Still sad about Randomizer getting reranded, underpowered Demon would ?potentially? be fun.

@TheBlueElixir

n1 I planned on bountying someone but I then decided against it because getting n1 bountied is the equvilant of excluding someone from playing the game so when I saw what I thought were Arete noble softs I instead Gossiped them(because if someone who is bountying gets occ’d/red that do be bad, and only 1 bounty can exist anyway), with nothing happening to them

I think this is a very towny thought process there, don’t think TBE would fake it even in a wolf fakeclaim and D2 bounty yeet on town would benefit wolves. TBE probably not a starting wolf.

@katze

like there were

multiple bounty targets that were better than PK

ugh

do i trust this claim

I think I get it, but I’d rather have TBE explain it. Hell, maybe he doesn’t actually get it.

[Vulgard]

@katze

because if your logs are real then we have confirmation that Frosts flip is faked, which heavily implies Arete was actually the NK

This is a problem, though.

[TheBlueElixir]

i dont think I was ever getting healed

ill try to be useful before I die

but i now have a zoom call to attend to

[katze]

@TheBlueElixir

so when I saw what I thought were Arete noble softs I instead Gossiped them(because if someone who is bountying gets occ’d/red that do be bad, and only 1 bounty can exist anyway)

can you point out these posts and your thought process when you saw the specific posts

[TheBlueElixir]

@Arete

Italy is a good Bounty target if we have a Noble

@Arete

but a serious enough take that Amelia is another Good Person For Checks/Bounties/Redirections/Etc. To Happen To

specifically the first post felt like arete’s obvious softing that arete usually does but this time I thought I actually picked up on it

[katze]

we have two people (cent/TBE) who can potentially unlock this day for us

if arete wasnt investigated N1 then we know frosts flip is fake

which would line up with NK!Arete worlds

which would lineup with “chloe/arete were strongmanned”

which means theres a ritualist

[katze]

i feel like im 1 step away from mechsolving this entire game

theres one piece missing

and the constant “stop trying to mechsolve” argument in my head

[Vulgard]

Yeah. That’d make Frost the NK kill, Arete/Chloe the wolf kills, PK/Wazza town kills.

@TheBlueElixir

if cent is legit and healed Chloe and failed by rit he could work, but this is the only sure scenario

if cent is legit and healed chloe and failed due to an invoker the invoker can still occupy/red cent

if cent is lying rit can still heal and falsely confirm themself, meaning he would still only be lock-not-CL(but with one less bleed out)

so i.e. cent’s mech confirm relies on scum which is no

(and he hasnt existed for too long, and want to take a second look, but I almost didnt because I thought he could actualyl confirm himself)

Don’t you mechanically know there’s almost certainly a rit, given your gossip results?

@TheBlueElixir

I also forgot FW claimed to check Arete V, dunno what that means but his logs to do look to be written by himself and dont understand the fool interactions fully

…Don’t you know his logs are fake given your results?
Like, I don’t think it’s impossible not to make this connection as a villager, but you’ve been playing this whole day phase like you didn’t know whether Frost’s check had been real/succeeded.

[Vulgard]

@katze

and the constant “stop trying to mechsolve” argument in my head

Yeah, mechsolving bad, but this looks important.

@Vulgard

Like, I don’t think it’s impossible not to make this connection as a villager, but you’ve been playing this whole day phase like you didn’t know whether Frost’s check had been real/succeeded.

@TheBlueElixir

I also forgot FW claimed to check Arete V, dunno what that means but his logs to do look to be written by himself and dont understand the fool interactions fully

You literally have mech info that Arete wasn’t investigated N1. What?
Okay, this is actually a really basic connection right there. How did you not make it?

[Vulgard]

…Right now I’m thinking why he’d ignore these results as wolf and play as if he didn’t have them. I feel like outing them would give him town points regardless of his alignment, and would probably be optimal?

Obvious answer is “he just came up with a fakeclaim a few moments ago” but his description of not bountying N1 doesn’t feel like something you just randomly put together in a few minutes. Hm.