FoL23 - Unseen Chat

Okay, I will. Thank you.

@DatBird
Do we out instantly tomorrow, or no? If not, whatā€™s the plan?
Once again, Iā€™m trusting you for this since youā€™re more experienced.

Uhhh Im pretty sure it just gets rid of the poison and he doesnt die and he loses his one time immunity. At least thatā€™s how I remember us doing it with our NK last game. But if hes going to die to the bleed this pushes us slightly back I guess. I think we still win since its gonna be 5v4 though

Me Maxwell convert plus Kape. Then we got 5 BD left minus one convert so 4

I rest my case with a bleed kills at the End of a Night. If that doesnt save him idk what will.

Also thought of something, that might be making me want to risk the one in five chance of death. Forgot Chrono at least in TOL, not exactly sure in FOL since Iā€™m not fluent in every card and on mobile, can move a death to another. Especially if the bleed is gonna count he can move it to one of us. Is it worth the one on five risk. I dont think so. But if one of does die thatā€™s prob the only way it will happen

i disagree.
Possessor, Sorcerer, and MM can all die to bleed.
It is a special type of death of which normal death immunity (even the one-shot kind), does not prevent.

But as I said Reaper who has one shot death immunity as long as he had a soul. Lived last game. Like idk Iā€™m against bleed goes through death immunity from prior game experience, and I will bring my thoughts to the FOL changes thread post game to make a distinct line that bleed diesnt go through death immunity, cause honestly Iā€™m not a fan that one form of death goes through death immunity while others dont.

King has double vote passive active at all times. We could literally do nothing at night at all for the rest of the game (or at least for another night or two), and are still incapable of losing.

Well as long as the chrono dont do what Iā€™m saying but yeah not risking it is better

yeah, but this isnā€™t a soul. Neither scorned nor inquisā€™s one-shot death immunity prevents death to bleed.
I find warlockā€™s one-shot DI a lot similar to scorned and inquis than to reaper.

It isnt a soul but its still a one shot/more since it can proc multiple times death immunity. But why does bleed go through death immunity I ask you

Itā€™s simple.

Bleed is a form of death that initially activates during the day.
Due to the mechanic of lynching, no one DI at night is ever DI at day, whatsoever.
Therefore, since the source of any bleed death is within the day phase, no one is death immune to it.

Thatā€™s how I justify no one being DI to lynch or bleed in ToL.

But as I said Bleeds description states if not healed within two nights. So by the end of the night not day he dies. Bleed is process at night for a fact, I know this I ran a game with Solic. The fact itā€™s a night death should be immune to it

If your logic was true, this entire sweeping change would have to be made to ToL.
Of course a bleed death happens at night.
But causing someone to bleed happens during the day. Once you start bleeding, nothing can stop you from continuing to bleed out. It makes no sense that death immunity should repair this in any way.
It doesnā€™t in ToL, so it doesnā€™t here.

If someone was immune to starting to bleed during the day, this would mean they were invulnerable during the day (which no one is), which would mean lynching would be useless against them.

thereā€™s no need to argue this. Itā€™s 5 v 4 votes, at the worst, tomorrow, since King has 2 votes at all times.

Even if possessed dies, we cannot lose no matter what else happens.

So by ur logic is a prince exe at night or day, since the initial action to jail them is a day one. But the added ability to kill someone is a night ability. Itā€™s a weird grey area like bleeds.

Reminder FOL is not TOL. They are different but inspired by each other even if people dont admit it. I dont really care that much if they change it to TOL. Like it makes more sense for bleed to work based on the description, Iā€™m not gonna hunt down Xblade to change a system in place. But Iā€™m gonna hunt down Solic for this and try and get him to change it.

Itā€™s in a gray area. I want bleeds to be stopped through night immunity thatā€™s it

No I just want dying by bleeding to be processed at night and to be stopped by death immunity, thatā€™s it. I dont need this other stuff.