Forum of Lies 30 - Night 5 (5/18) The Demon and Inquisitor win!

in derps’ position, the only way i don’t vote the counterwagon is if i’m beyond certain the counterwagon is town. would need a super strong argument, like them being a mechconfirm to me or them being townmeta arete.

so i actually… agree with this? in a vacuum, anyway. food for thought.

It doesn’t help that not only do we have slanking villagers who aren’t playing games they signed up for, it makes me suspect we didn’t rand many investigatives as we have no green/red checks for the past 2 nights.

derps has over 500 posts.
why this.

also, i feel like people forgot his first posts.

this is someone who constantly undermines their own credibility for no reason at all, and doesn’t even bother looking like they are trying to solve.

…why are people scumreading this?
i genuinely don’t see what’s wrong with derps iso so far. he’s being very random and simultaneously very confident, to the point of undermining his own credibility in multiple instances because he doesn’t care.

also, claiming neut d1 attracts potential town killers to him, etc., etc. there’s a mechanical argument to be made there about why that would be suboptimal for a wolf, but w/e.

So they’ve made over 500 posts and is there any sign of a towny mindset ongoing there?
If there is, then this is nagl.

this is conviction in his read! he doesn’t care that the read potentially makes him look bad, he just cares about the read and wants to push there.

consistent with his worldview that there are wolves in the top posters.

for derps, this has been an incredibly villagery iso so far.

i’m at post 70 and i already don’t want to kill him today. what’s wrong with you? am i an idiot for thinking this is his towniest game this year?

Alright so if you don’t want Derps out, then who would you nominate as a counterwagon?

at the very least he wasn’t a wolf day 2 because the way he played d2 is very consistent with the town mindset of “push wolves, win game, my image doesn’t matter if i can get wolves killed!!!”

he constantly undermined his own credibility by saying that he didn’t read stuff, by claiming neutral day 1, etc., etc. and yet he still offered insights about the gamestate at large as well as specific people. this randomness is way more likely to come from town, because a wolf would most likely want to seem more coherent, to make people sheep them more easily.

Actually you know what?
I’m down with /unvote
Lets have a counter wagon with /vote AtNoName.

he fakeclaimed like 5 times d1/d2 and people complain about him fakeclaiming prince.

and not this, for some reason.

…i thought you said that he had a suspicious vote on magnus or something? not sure why nobody has a problem with the fact he responded to pressure by yelling at people and calling them scum, then the classic selfvote + ate.

one of the bigger reasons i think derps might be scum is because he’s highposting, and that’s more consistent with his wolf meta because he enjoys playing wolf so much more.

i’d even argue he might be nk if he’s not town. the neutral claim d1… yeah no, that was a meme, but unless?

posts like these are what makes me :thinking:.

right now i think that if derps is scum he’s not groupscum. he’s more likely town than groupscum.

his iso really fell off a cliff when he started defending himself and did that by attacking people + selfvoting + ateing, so i understand that part.

this is actually very true and i have no idea why it didn’t happen?

he literally told you that

  1. the vote is for self-pres
  2. he doesn’t even think it flips wolf, but he’s doing it for self-pres anyway.

why is that wolfy?

this.

also he agrees with 2/3 of people’s poe. you could argue it’s a wolf doing it for distancing but it’s notable.

literally what is the point of this narrative if you’re a wolf. you’re just pissing off the town highposters and making them scumread you.

i don’t even think derps threw anywhere, and i saw that accusation as well at some point. if he’s town he didn’t throw.

this isn’t a lie. consistent with his voting patterns d2.

can you expand upon the surge read? @SirDerpsAlot can he be nk in your world? if so, why?

these two posts seem pure for some reason.

so far the only part i really take issue with is how he handled being pressured midway through day 2 and toward the end, but other than that, his iso has been… towny.

rune being nk isn’t impossible but i kinda doubt it.

i don’t want to vote derps today. at all.
moving onto insanity. i know he’s bleeding but bear with me.

Thanks Vulgard for reading, I’m happy I didn’t have to go step 2 of Derps defense yet.

Have you cased Insanity yet?
I’m looking forward to hearing what you have to say about their slot, even though that’s a slot that should die to bleed N3.

his tone is really weird and stilted. taking note.

incredibly reserved. probably not alignment indicative.

there’s something… weirdly pure about his posts.

it’s weird that he didn’t out the bleed instantly… bleeding immune? rune had to out the bleed first.

he’s not even trying to survive. i don’t think this is ever groupscum.

this seems pure.

takeaways:

  • posts read as rather pure despite the stilted tone.
  • weird lack of self-pres despite hearing about being bled.
  • didn’t claim bled until rune pointed it out in thread. could be indicative of them being bleeding immune nk.
  • seems to have town’s best interests at heart. the way he claimed looked fine and he hasn’t really done anything to push villagers. didn’t even ask for protectives, and debauched at to himself night 2 instead of anyone else, because he was already poe and it was the right play from his pov.

if he’s scum he’s nk, and given the lack of self-pres, i kinda don’t think he is.

possible groupscum, actually. he’s not spewing anyone if he dies.
probably should die to the bleed, but if he flips town, i won’t be surprised whatsoever. i don’t see any obvious problems with his iso.

How would you feel about NoName being a counter wagon on D3?

I would feel it being stupid considering 2 kills when they were jailed.