Forum of Lies 30 - Night 5 (5/18) The Demon and Inquisitor win!

[ATNoName]

Imagine if PKR were to allies two of his biggest scumread because hes EK

[Aelin]

I know
But numerically speaking
You have a 35% chance to be evil
The rest of us have a 29.411% chance to be evil

[PokemonKidRyan]

I mean, you are not in my allies chat.
Jk, jk.

[Aelin]

Enough math
I’d rather do meth

[eevee]

@ATNoName

Imagine if PKR were to allies two of his biggest scumread because hes EK

Yeah, I would have no issues with it?
It would hint towards his aligment way more then enforcing who to target.

[Intensify]

@Aelin

I know
But numerically speaking
You have a 35% chance to be evil
The rest of us have a 29.411% chance to be evil

uh- a- not even sure how I respond to this

[Paradox]

I don’t see why most night actions should be discussed, but Allies is a special occasion here. Like others said, it promotes solving and moving the game forward. Additionally, I think it’s a good idea to make Allies members public because clarity on this matter seems far more pro-town than anti-town.

[Aelin]

m a t h

[ATNoName]

welp, now you sacrifice the potential that a good allies have to catch an EK.

[eevee]

@Paradox

Like others said, it promotes solving and moving the game forward.

How.

[Paradox]

I don’t see how having consensually “solvey” townies in a chat together with the king to discuss reads, night actions, and the gamestate isn’t promoting solving itself? Maybe I don’t understand your position here as well as I’d like though if you could go into more detail of why Allies shouldn’t be discussed in public.

[Intensify]

NoName ISO BEEP BOOPIDKSOJPDML:KN L<M:DOSL

@ATNoName

A lot has happened, but I wondered why we are all in a manor

@ATNoName

or we could have been transported to here, but hey thats my guess

@ATNoName

or whatever the mafia counterpart is if there are any

NAI opener once again.

@ATNoName

Imagine TRing me. Last time a TR happened it was by Alice (from FOL28), she couldn’t make a conclusion until I hardclaim.

Doesn’t like it when I try to RT them via pressure vote… I don’t like RTs either so meh

@ATNoName

Because you suck at picking good targets

: (

@ATNoName

Hes a GK and a EK

Definitely not a good answer to my “What alignment do you think King is” question.

@ATNoName

and what will happen if He just doesn’t follow up with it?

Asking what happens if King doesn’t follow up… that’s pretty good.

@ATNoName

First, we should probably start pressure Magnus if he gets on, so we don’t have to deal with him being sus.

@ATNoName

When it comes to Magnus, I think if we get one good clue in one of his posts. We could clear him and move on rather than what we had to deal in SFOL63.

Solviness I guess?

@ATNoName

Let’s wait until everyone has atleast posted once before king decides who to ally.

This is a good post and I forgot to it.

@ATNoName

Oh yeah I forgot. How would we deal with Derps?

Slight solvey post.
Meh.
In my opinion, if they don’t seem to show signs of trying to help town and is completely just posting random crap, I put em in PoE

@ATNoName

well, since I have yet to see you try, could you actually play?

@ATNoName

… whatever

He wants L1ght to play… which I guess is good

@ATNoName

I’m not gonna risk a chancellor and could you tell me why you should be in allies?

Paranoia about Chancellor night 1 is kinda meh

@ATNoName

@Frostwolf103

I can see the value on this to be honest, reminds me of one game Italy is Witch and just agreed with Wazza’s vote but doesnt townread each other, turns out to be both scum of different alignment.

Hmm, Frost is being solvey enough to consider being town.

Frost reads, which I mean are decent I guess.

Conclusion: Nulltown
NoName’s ISO is a little meh for me. He has some questionable posts, but also has some towny/solvey posts. I’m just gonna put them as Nulltown for now. I’m confident they’ll get better day 2 when we can actually vote tho

[eevee]

What I meant by asking why is “please provide reasoning”, not “it’s promoting itself cause it’s promoting itself”.

[ATNoName]

Its better for mechanical side where you could plan which night actions without targetting the same people.

[Aelin]

@Aelin

PKR has the highest chance to be evil out of all of us technically speaking
also
if he is EK, a pre-made allies group gives him less wiggle room to slide in a non-solver to basically stagnate the allies chat

@eevee

[eevee]

@ATNoName

Its better for mechanical side where you could plan which night actions without targetting the same people.

How does it affect allies? With what action?

[eevee]

@Aelin

@Aelin

PKR has the highest chance to be evil out of all of us technically speaking

also
if he is EK, a pre-made allies group gives him less wiggle room to slide in a non-solver to basically stagnate the allies chat

@eevee

I know, it’s a fail argument tho.

No EK will claim EK to anyone on night 1, inviting 2 random people and no scum will claim scum either there tbh.
Besides, 2 non-actives are giving more information about person inviting them anyway and results of it anyway.

[ATNoName]

It opens up many choices in what you can do with another person. If you are protective, you could protect each other, protect 2 TRs to reduce redundancy, or have 1 protective protect the other while the other protect another TR. Same goes for Protective/Cop. Vig/Cop etc.

[eevee]

I was asking about allies, which is neighborhood, not about protective / invest / kill etc.
That’s not answer to my question either.

Sure, 2 people in this chat can cooperate, but you would need to know theirs role pre-inviting on day 1 to arrange something like this, otherwise it’s >rand.

So… again… why?

[Aelin]

@eevee how about this, can you give any negative effects to getting a consensus allies group?