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#221

Who really needs to not be invincible at night

#222

He was kinda broke lol

#223

He has guardian of field which can be used to fake claim allies

#224

But that’s not how allies works

#225

ah yeah

#226

Allies is the night chat

#227

Anyways IMO their should be some sort of negative utility associated with making people straw as if he claims it’s just kinda whatever since it dosent effect anything

#228

yeah scarecrow can just claim publicly and not face virtually any consequences.

#229

Yeah which is bad in terms of neutral design

#230

its not like people could totally fake claim it

#231

But it also gets observer esque results

#232

And can prove itself with blood on the field

#233

Like in the state it’s in it’s almost +EV for town to side with them

#234

Might get rid of night imm

#235

becomes bd king because duh

#236

In addition, if you side with bd, you will probably have a less chance of winning, as straw doesn’t pass on from other targets. Instead, you can only give straw to a player, and the person they visited. In order to have better chances of winning, you probably should side with evils, as most games end by d6 or d7.

#237

Neutrals are supposed to be neutral, not “insert whatever wincon you want here”. They should be able to benefit either unseen or bd. Not specifically one or the other. They should benefit no one and have no allegiances.

#238

That’s not true their are definitely neutrals designed to assist one side more than the other

#239

wait isn’t this just… a member of the blue dragon with negative utility abilities?

#240

I’m not saying that there isn’t, i’m saying what I personally believe