too strong and too swingy, basically
yea i began hating it more and more as time went on and i cba to figure out how to fix it without
“delet”
@ Jgoes
Love Angel - I think this makes the game far too swingy, and it can also townside with zero drawback. The very existence of this class in the game increases potential KP, and I feel like we have enough KP – plus, it’s like you’re a Mercenary who gets to choose her contracts, and your contracts have no ability to refuse. I don’t think the niche this class would fill is necessary to fill, if that makes sense… it is far too swingy. If it sides with wolves, it’s a huge problem for BD, and vice versa, because it can protect PRs.
Revolutionary - The concept is unique, but I’m not sure if the niche is needed to fill. It requires you to have really good reads and be a really influential voice, and it also relies on communication with the wolves to make sure they campaign for being elected. You can also… just ask people to elect you and win, which makes this class super townsided in certain situations. There is a huge advantage if the starting King is evil. I don’t think a class that screws over the King is needed. The fact King’s alignment is unknown screws them over sufficiently enough.
Recluse - This one just seems a little boring, no offense. I don’t have much to say about it. It wants people to visit it, and… that’s about it. It’s like a neutral PGO-izer that doesn’t kill. I’m not sure if that needs to be a thing. I don’t feel like it changes the game much. You also have absolutely no incentive to do anything during the day. You can just slank for the whole game and still fulfill your wincon because some people will want to visit the 0-posters. And that is bad.
@ Ami
Council - This one feels like it has too much agency. You can openclaim, and the amount of power you have is actually tremendous. You can openly influence the game greatly, and you’re like an additional member of either faction who is also a PR. I feel like it’s a bit… much. I don’t DISLIKE the concept, I just think it might be too powerful for a neutral. If this were to spawn, it would need to spawn as the only neutral in the game that isn’t NK. Overall, I think it could work, but it would require changes to the entire setup, and even then I have some reservations. This neut could completely control the game in some situations, and that’s probably a bad thing.
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that’s fair
i don’t think they would be though
love angel is “PROTECC FRIEND”
revolutionary is “ATTACC KING”
recluse is “PROTECC ME!!!”
none of them struck me as particularly interesting and/or fun to play
and none of them really have much to do during day phase
they don’t care about who gets lynched for the most part
love angel just doesn’t want one person to get lynched
revolutionary wants exactly one person to get lynched
and recluse doesn’t give 2 shits as it doesn’t get lynched itself
Isn’t it too easy to manipulate lynch with this? I could see this being very annoying for other players.
they weren’t terribly unbalanced though so i will give credit where it’s due
the idea is that you can only do it once and to one target at a time so it shouldn’t be so bad
and it’s still -ev for town if it triggers
it’s supposed to help you once if you think you have good reads
I’d like an evil neutral vanillariser with a goal of vanillaerising like 3 town or something to salt ppl who got a cool role only to play as a vt.
The interesting thing is if you combo it with its 1-shot night ability
Revelation (Night) - If you use Desperation tomorrow, its effect will only activate should the target be a member of the Blue Dragon. - 1 Use
As Missionary you put in your logs: “if I get executed instead of this guy, he is 100% confirmed BD”
That’s a non-fakeable hardconfirm, which is probably pretty strong
also it’s not guaranteed at all because you could get occed while using revelation and then you’ve just miscleared someone who can be a wolf
What were the reasons for my denial might I ask
I know there is flaws but I want to see if there are any additional ones
The problem I see is that any monkey who randed that role can waste the day for lolreasons if they want very easily.