Like I can’t recall off the top of my head any single time that an entire scumteam has pushed each other in a triangle or whatever on D1
Because it guarantees that there will be investment in seeing the flips of one or more of the involved players in a mountainous game
where flips are literally all you have and keeping yourself out of them is critical
also Eli is independently town
even aside from the meta others were using that I don’t have
Eli basically didn’t have a D2, but when he did it was critical of Arete without being overly performative about it - nothing mindblowing but given his SoD1 it shows good continuation of thought
and then he subbed out
plus Leafia has been nothing but towny
so yeah I’m locking this in
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I think I’m mostly staying away from what I used as evidence yesterday but that all still holds
Deadass just baseless shade they take zero credit for by painting it as “consensus”
also oh god my thing from yesterday is even worse than I thought - I missed this because it’s buried in a wall
this is the full quote from that “you’re implying I’m partnered with Daisy” thing and in context it is also pushing the same fabrication I called out yesterday regarding Daisy being an alt
I’m not gonna deny it when I say I sucked this game, but meh. thats on me. We killed arete, and have 2 scum left. Although I spent all my time on trying to hide my tone constantly instead of actually properly voicing out the thoughts I had, I believe if anyone wants to win this game, they’ll at least listen to me.
Heres my proposition based off of yesterday: Orange is scum.
Not only did I decide to look more into Emilias slot to give myself a peace of mind about cabbage, but I also realized very quickly after eod yesterday how…unbelievably wolfy orange was at EOD.
After I first stated I was leaving thread, orange said this.
This is innocent, and so I replied why I was dipping. Honestly? I didn’t want to return before EOD.
Orange says this. which not only is just softly insulting me based off of something I sad at the start of the game, but also calling me scum. which obviously comes from someone knowing how to get someone to stop lurking and come back to thread to reply and engage with them.
I replied with this, and the first sentence is literally true. I will not deny I did STUPID shit this game, but obviously how the fuck am I supposed to argue against the fact that townread ghana based off of meta yet asked why someone else was using meta. I said what I said. I clearly made a dumb mistake. literally everyone knows this, yet orange is the one who played it off as if I was making excuses despite the fact he especially KNOWS better that there is no way me as a villager can defend myself.
??? literally wrong, you were the one who called it an excuse. how the hell am I supposed to argue against that?
I said this, left again
phrases this really weirdly, saying im supposed to be helping myself as town. the point of the game is to advance your wincon, which is defeat scum. I don’t need to be alive to do that. well, I didn’t but now I do need to. literally all of oranges posts towards me atp is antagonization for the purpose of making me come back to thread instead of actually trying to make people vote for me for some reason.
this just reminds me of “trust me bro” which I don’t like
really bad posts, especially the second one.
I left and vote misty, and I did think the posts were towny, but then
This sequence of posts all of a sudden after my vote on mist immediately switching from me to mist and hammering mist is ???
says this, which is blatantly untrue and ? pretty wolfy too like rlly wolfy actually… I voted mist on my own accord and then orange hammered, which is really weird
so yeah, thats just my analysis from yesterday eod.
+Emilia
Townreading daisy despite the fact the post right before that should’ve been a post indicating a scumread, plus the action of easily townreading GGhanas slot for being “contentious” (fancy word for controversial) is a yikes.
I don’t really feel like quoting the same posts of Cabbage vs Emilia as I have quoted them thousands of times. At first, I thought they could’ve been W/W, but Cabbage obviously flipped town. Cabbage made points about Emilia, including the fact she treated the Aelin/Cabbage wagon with zero to no thought, which is actually true and indicative of scum AI, actually. Something else I noticed was that everyone seemed to have no issue townreading Emilia, despite the fact she barely did anything which would’ve warranted that…including me. The issue is, people did this the entire game. and then Orange replaced in, and its already difficult and intimidating writing a case on him due to the fact id say he’s arguably the best player in the game currently. Everyone just townread him naturally. My point is, Emilia was super UTR.
The read on daisy which is bad. Townreading what was obviously Ghana because of contentiousness despite the fact gghana is extremely confrontational regardless of alignment.
might actually be tmi from a paragraph I made earlier. no reasoning and existing is an AWFUL reason.
bad
even more bad and contributes to my point
like
Emilia literally knew that was ghana
yet cleared him based off of contentiousness. see the issue???
self explanatory
bad post. encouraging people not to give a shit about a slot which ended up being wolf.
again
this
is
so bad
oqoqoqww they’ve given no actual reasoning on almost any of these and especially the fact arete is on there looks bad because they’re up there because of a townlean they had on ghana (which was invalid)
and then there’s mostly flipped v as their poe which isn’t bad but kinda
Still awful posts. like legit. Emilia really did not care who was dying which is extremely wolfy
legit
barely anything of substance towards reading arete yet they v read arete
like what??
tldr Emilia looks genuinely awful and if you don’t want to listen to anything I say about orange please take a look at what I said about Emilia and say that they weren’t scum. they really are. it doesnt matter though, because there’s basically zero way we’re winning this at this point.
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I think I’m mostly staying away from what I used as evidence yesterday but that all still holds
Misconstrution of what I said (plus I actually legit took responsability for mling cabbage)
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also oh god my thing from yesterday is even worse than I thought - I missed this because it’s buried in a wall
I can actually defend this one. ignoring the “if daisy is an alt” The fact that Eli suspected that daisy was an alt but still used an excuse which could be used towards newbwolves was wolfy.
@orangeandblack5 im voting you today, so unless you need me to pause for whatever reason or hold off since im voting first, feel free to say it.
okay I did not see this one coming but I respect the “don’t spew anyone else” angle
fyi
this is based off of pure opinion which is why I didn’t include it
but from my pov you should’ve always died before hippo
does this mean you have any objections or…?
I mean I’m mid-way through your iso (right where you start pushing Arete as town) and I’m pretty sure that it doesn’t really matter who you vote
That being said, obviously I’d rather you vote within Arctic/Wazza - the chance of voting scum there is way higher and it gives us more info
that being said I don’t expect you’ll actually listen to me lmao
sorry about that.
if my vote ends up making town lose, then ill let myself get blasted endgame for it.
/vote Orangeandblack