The goal of this was to make all converts at least on par with each other. I might slightly nerf Enforcer if I get an idea on how to do it, but for now I’m leaving it like this.
I wouldn’t change Sage’s class type. He’s closer to other Unseen supports than Unseen offensives in terms of function.
Notice how Support converts are the ones you take when you need extra Kill power and survivability.
Sage, Enforcer, Timesnatcher
I think Sage is more offensive than the other unseen supports, and if Foresight having unreliable results in a few cases is intended, swapping Herbalist and Sage would keep the amount of exceptions the same.
But like Kape said, Not a big priority.
if your target gets gossiped when using WC, then you would be outed as Nightwatch along with your teammate, as it shows the entire class.
It was a joke. No starting king is GK.
if your target gets gossiped when using WC, then you would be outed as Nightwatch along with your teammate, as it shows the entire class.
if your target gets gossiped when using WC, then you would be outed as Nightwatch along with your teammate, as it shows the entire class.
You don’t get the class exactly, but there’s around a 1 in 3 chance that the BD Killer is Prince, a 100% chance that the Neutral Killer is… ahem, a 2 in 3 chance that the BD Support is a healer, etc. Basically an infinite semi nerfed WC.
Sheriff bussing, not Obs bussing. Think using Surveille on your teammate, not Peek.
I’m making it be a slightly worse in most situations Probe, which is also infinite use. Also Duchess has Dark Wisp.
He’s more Support than Offensive and serves the function of a Support.
At least for one of them, you made it seem like WC could be used as a confirm for Peek in a Gossip.
Then why not also nerf Dark Wisp if you nerfed DD?
I’m mostly saying that in case Foresight not being a reliable Princess fake is part of why Herb is still Offensive, Sage is the most offensive-like Support convert that could be changed imo.
Because Timesnatcher has much more power than Duchess.
Rewind, Timesnatch AND a full team tailor? That’s too much.
Which additionally gives Duchess her own niche.
We don’t know if that’s the case, we just assumed it as such because “lmao why would it be offensive”
Rewind only works if all healers are otherwise occupied (either literally, or metaphorically)
You’re thinking of time snatch. Rewind doesn’t care about healers.
I don’t think you can compare isolated abilities like that. Duchess also has Royal Blood and Dark Wisp. Observer is also going to be harder to fake once you are promoted to Assassin (albeit less so with this Foresight change) (That’s looking at it a bit negatively, because the extra credibility you have as Nightwatch can also be used to pull a mislynch easier and then open up the conversion slot)
Honestly this is why I think Window Peek is better than just a 2 use faction check.
Specifically it’s a 2 use faction check on a class that is practically auto confirmed.
Yeah, I think Observer is busted, so anything that lowers their power like a MM gaining access to tracking/watching is a plus in my book.
Would love to see the Princesses are MM’s meme change to Observers.
Makes Duchess a good choice early on to help find Prince and NK, probably not as useful later when most people are out and the remainder are obvious enough to the Unseen.
Discussed this on discord, agreed with it then, agree with it now.
Much better. They don’t do anything I’d consider “offensive”, manipulating the court (making people look like other classes) or giving fake results (drug) is more a social thing.
Not mentioned here, but mentioned in discord, change Illusionist PM to match your version of Mystic PM or it’s a hard confirm for the mystic.
Nah I think it’s fine how it is
Good Change
Decent Change
Sure
Wtf? no mental blur shouldn’t be snoop but it should be reworked.
What why you target unseen if your marshal this is pointless
Same thing for Marshal.
Sure
This is alright
Gossip and follow confirms + bussing.
Also removed the Bewilder from Servant.
With my King changes it’s too similar to Distract.