Master Rework of Doom!

Probably because we are the most invested. Luckily I know people have seen this and support it baised on discussions on discord. And by that I mean I saw people seeing our suggestions and going: “I WANT ALL OF THESE NOW!!!”

Proof?

Oh cool. Still, how come barely anyone is commenting? Even if this is awesome, I’m 99% sure this isn’t perfect yet.

Also I want the proof.

For discord chats? That would be hard. It was in general so it’s barried at this point.

@NuclearBurrito @NightX
Okay, I didn’t really care too much on whether Overtime has 1 use or 2. The point I wanted to make was that Noble’s strengths should be during the day, not the night, so getting more NT and PP would be much more useful. Well, more so on PP than NT. NT can stay 2 uses I guess, but PP should be 4.

I’m fine with more NT and PP. And remember that his night Ability’s have their effects exclusively during the day.

Should Knight have Retribution?

  • Yes
  • No

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So close to someone new commenting

So? The main issue with it is that it only affects one class/faction. Abilities shouldn’t only affect one class/faction.

Rarely working does not mean that it’s balanced. There’s no way to counter or trick smite.

The current psychic has no cooldown. This is just a slightly stronger version.

Replace this with royal finger(3 uses): The player you accuse will instantly be put on trial.

This should bypass everything. It’s slightly underpowered currently, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t bypass healing/protection.

Infinite votes? Ew

No. This would give King EXE no counterplay whereas phys and Knight protection already has sufficient counterplay as established in Nights Prince thread.

Would you remove Scout/Smite?

This is not just a stronger version. This can hook up 4 people to the Astral Network, which allows them to coordinate their moves.

Royal Finger is good now with extra votes.

I think it is powerful enough. I wouldn’t object, but I don’t think it is needed.

Also, I think I’ll add Retribution to Knight.

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This should just guarantee that reap kills the target, and make reap not count as a visit. It’s currently only useful to kill the king and MM.

I’d prefer it if reap just left an empty body that remained until they died again instead of editing their logs.

Magic missile should not count as a visit. This is to give it something special over reaper/possessor

This should be usable at any time.

This is too specific. Just change it so you can choose a class, and your target will appear to be that class for the rest of the game.

It’s only 3 uses, so it’s not infinite.

But healing shouldn’t be able to prevent everything. Healing is overpowered if it can prevent almost any attack. And it should be strong, the king is meant to be a leader.

I would remove smite. Scout should just be changed so it determines when your target’s class changes. And I would change expert investigation to this: Choose a faction. You will be told if your target belongs to that faction. I’m not sure what paladin should be changed to though

No. This just counters the NK. We removed Allies for a good reason.

This doesn’t automatically determine the faction. Allies did. It would also be fine if it just determined if your target was evil or not though

NK should not show to Sheriff/Paladin. Period.

Determining if your target is evil just means that you will know if your target is cult/unseen, but not which one.

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That would have NOTHING to do with the issue that this is ment to solve.

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Support.

It’s 3 uses of infinite votes. My point stands.

Healing already is hardcountered by reaper and enforcer. Not to mention Sage, Sorcerer and ritualist countering protection in general.

He already is. No need to overdo it.

Just chose BD every time and you have the worst incarnation of Allies.

Okay. I’m making the following changes:

  • Gather Darkness guarantees kill.

  • Magic Missile is no longer a visit.

  • Circle of Death is always usable.

EDIT: Also Chant of Confusion lets you choose the class they appear as.

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@NuclearBurrito @NightX

Do you guys think that maybe Prince should lose occupation immunity? Maybe that would stop the Unstoppable kills of the Prince and make CW a bit more useful in terms of barrier as well