[Minimash] Community Forum Mafia 2 - (5/9/31) - Game Over - ModeShifter (Alice) Wins!

And believe me, Alice has been super Lamist this entire game.

Basically, if you can’t see a world where you’re scum then you’re scum.

Players alive:

Marshal
Alice
Hippoyeetus
Geyde
DatBird
Techwolves
Icibalus
MaximusPrime
Leafia
Mist
Solic
Apprentice

Marshal - Pushed Napoleon hard. Nightkilled N1. Voted Light/Mode/Italy/Mode/Mist/Ici/Simon/Ici (voting thread) Townread @Geyde you confirm to have ressed him? With the banning so prevalent I can foresee mafia having limited resurrection power too (Maxi/Hippo :eyes:)

Alice - I have been getting bad vibes the entire game to be honest. They were a primary reason that Mode was mislynched and also that Simon was mislynched. Big backing behind shooting Cheese. They did shoot Napoleon, but that was nigh inevitable under Apprentice’s counterclaim. They had Italy low, but they did not end their vote on Italy’s wagon D2, but Ici’s. They supported N throughout day 2. They supported every shot yesterday which all hit town. Nerbins/Frost/SDA/An_gorta/TWL. They have stuck with their PoE throughout these shots. They hardly had much of a reaction towards any of these town flips. It feels like she’s terminatoring through any town LHF with their thread presence that they possibly can tbh. They have a desperado claim shot on them that can be bypassed by godfather. They fakeclaimed 3rd party during day 2 to discredit Kyo (who is likely town) on a claimed weak hint from their classcard (in an eevee game). They claim a greencheck on Ici and are now voting them. Voted me/Cheese/Mode/Light/Mode/Simon/me/N/me/PKR/me/Kyo/Italy/Ici/TWL/Nerbins/Ici/Mist/TWL/Mist/Simon/Mist/Simon/Maxi/Ici (voting thread) Scumlean from me.

Hippoyeetus - Decent tone earlygame. Parity cop cleared with Marshal due to Light who died in the event. Gf would bypass that to, but a parity cop checking a miller and a gf is just lullll. Survived mass suicide with N event. Voted PKR/Light/Sulit/Light/Italy/TWL/Simon/Alice (voting thread) That’s about all I have… tbh :thinking: should reread this slot a bit more, but townlean atm.

Geyde - Solid takes all around in the beginning. I have frequently found myself reacting to the same posts in a similar way while backreading looking for scum, so I’m quite confident that he’s town. They pricked through N’s incredibly bad faith read on me as well and had a good EoD day 2, where they sheeped my Italy read even though they had the thread standing to go towards other candidates I’d believe. Also claims Chloe now sooo :man_shrugging: (this is still quite weird, because I thought it was obviously Leafia, which is a big reason why I let that slot go usually) Voted Simon/Mode/N/An_gorta/Ici/Mist/Ici/Italy/Ici/Mist/Italy/Simon/Maxi/Ici (voting thread) Townread

Datbird - Birdo had a bad opener. Improved his posting by a lot throughout however. I think there was a particular post where they urged anyone to either shoot N or Italy, sooo really good look for them there. They also were in the mass suicide with N event. Voted Mode/Simon/N/Ici/Mist/Ici/Maxi/Ici/Simon (voting thread) I’m fine with leaving this in townread.

Techwolves - Was willing to shoot either N or Italy by direction. Clearly hasn’t showed any TMI yet. Voted Italy/Mode (voting thread) His claim is definitely not a fabrication, as I have information on that (not on his alignment to be clear), so that makes it a townlean for me.

Icibalus - Zero proactivity on this slot. Has been counterwagon day 2 to a scum. I feel like I had EoD day 2 quite on lock, so it wouldn’t be surprising if it’d be wagons on both scum then. Town definitely had more members then too, so scum couldn’t have thrown around sheer voting weight then. Has spend a lot of time defending/white knighting? my particular slot. The game they referenced in this defense didn’t have quite an exact tonal match to this game. Alice claims a greencheck on this slot. Voted Italy/Mist/Italy/Mist (voting thread). Scumlean is what I think.

MaximusPrime - The “comes back and asks a lot about what happened and makes some strong takes stance” is kind of reminiscent of Scum Maxi, but I don’t have a direct game to relate that to to be honest. The fact that they scumread my slot based on shoddy reasoning is unfortunately NAI. For context Maxi has I think twice already? (I know one for sure) scumread my slot after I had flipped town already. I liked his take early on SDA, but they did flip town. ITA’ed Ici and TWL which might be noteworthy. Was on Ici wagon day 2 instead of Italy, was on Mist wagon day 3. Mode wagon day 1. Nothing really conclusive I can make of that. They could fit on many potential teams by his ISO being all over the place in my opinion. Lots of loose takes on different players. Voted Mode/Ici/Sulit/Mist (voting thread)

Leafia - I have been ignoring this slot too, since they were incessant Napoleon was a fake Chloe claim (did they think so before Apprentice did their counterclaim?), so I had heavy suspicions on this one being Chloe. In passing their takes also seem to flip flop … a lot, so didn’t seem useful to read it. Claims the occupation on Moleland, which would fit with their heavy fight day 1. Apprentice claims a greencheck on this slot. Voted me/Light/Mole/Mode/Light/Mode/Italy/Mode/Simon/N/Kyo/N/Italy/Ici/Italy/Mist/Italy/Mist/Simon/Maxi/Ici. (voting thread)

Mist/Moleland - I don’t know why slank slots like this join FM tbh. Moleland had early vote on Modeshifter and was very heavy on Leafia. Did claim bodyguard on Marshal that was allegedly occupied by Leafia, no actioning n2, attempt on Marshal n3, which are reasonable actions if true, since Marshal should be quite townread from day 1. Was very small counterwagon to Simon day 3 and there were attempts to CFD this slot on day 2. Voted Mode as Moleland/no votes themselves (voting thread). Honestly, I don’t see that much scum equity in this slot now other than Mist just lurking atm. The night actions make sense and Mole was tunnely on Leafia for not horrible reasons. Null on this slot.

Apprentice - Counterclaimed Napoleon. Was a big reason, why they got executed day 1. I have been kind of ignoring this slot since then. Survived N suicide incident. Claims a greencheck on Leafia. Voted Mode/Italy/Simon (voting thread). Townlean.

The voting patterns are very uniform except Alice and Hippo. I feel most bad about Alice mostly, because it seems like they go from vote -> town flip, next vote -> next town flip etc.

Team candidates for combinations

Alice
Ici
Maximus
Leafia
Mist

Italy was scum investigative. Napoleon was scum JOAT, so we have no flipped scum offensive/supports yet that could classically mess with cop checks. (Someone, I forgot who, has already confirmed godfather(s) exist in this game)

Combinations (barring 5th/lost wolf uncertainties atm):

Alice/Ici/Maxi/Leafia (Italy/Napoleon/N)

Would require double godfather or other shenanigans, because Alice+Leafia.

Alice/Ici/Maxi/Mist (Italy/Napoleon/N)

Would only require Alice to be a godfather.

Alice/Ici/Leafia/Mist (Italy/Napoleon/N)

Would require double godfather or other shenanigans, because Alice+Leafia.

Alice/Maxi/Leafia/Mist (Italy/Napoleon/N)

Would require double godfather or other shenanigans, because Alice+Leafia.

Ici/Maxi/Leafia/Mist (Italy/Napoleon/N)

Would require double godfather or other shenanigans, because Ici+Leafia.

If I can clear one of these teams I can push the common denominator, but they all seem plausible to me… rereading Leafia or Alice is going to kill my brain. I understand the current trend against hyperposters now.

god
is it just me or is eevee giving out a lot of peeks through events, supposedly

Can you like comment, vote, make yourself look town now? :eyes:

i’m not going to vote as a fun trick for you to watch me flip
i’m going to vote to win the game

Since everyone and their mother keeps referencing Insurgence, I see that Leafia was apparently scum there and has around double the posts here in the same timespawn (1 day less here), so that’s looking better for them on this very rudimentary I-don’t-want-to-read-all-their-posts-here way.

You make a lot of sense here Solic. Welcome to my lock town. I can see how all of those combinations could be possible even if I doubt we have two GFs and I know that I’m not scum.

For which faction however. :upside_down_face:

ha ha
village obviously
look, are we clearing Apprentice incorrectly
that’s what I want to ask

ok so

could it be dat

his roles have event fuckery

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we cleared dat because his posting significantly improved, right?
maybe we should re-eval assuming that they’ve improved as a wolf greatly

We’ve absolutely miscleared somebody and we are going to lose if we don’t reconsider our village core. I think it is distressingly plausible that Alice is w but I’m going to not vote them because of the desperado shot just yet, although the Illuminati information would actually explain how. It’s not worth voting her, and excuse the rambly post.

So apart from her, assume we’ve fucked up hard at least once, and go from there.

Okay where? I just gave you takes on everyone.

Marshal, Hippo and Geyde are all almost certainly v, certainty in descending order.
We aren’t lynching Solic.

What does that leave us with?

yeah

why

You didn’t really give a take on Appy. I mean, they did kill Napoleon, but Napoleon was a dead man walking, and BotC is designed to have copious bussing involved.

solic’s been consistently villagery all game in my view

Yes, the BotC comment was a bit ridiculous, but bussing is not out of character for Apprentice, is what I’m saying… unless they’ve claimed Chloe, and i’m a dumb dumb.

have you even made a case on that