Minor Changes Suggestion

The new patch is great, and thank you Devs, so much.

But I feel we have some minor changes that would be useful to help buff up certain classes but not completely change the game.

Noble: Spy Maid -
I feel that Spy Maid is underpowered a bit, unless it’s a whisper game, but even then, a maid can only do so much and listen to so many people. I feel that the Noble should be able to target 2 people with Spy Maid per night.

Butler: Concentrated Wine -
It’s the Butler’s defense mechanism, but isn’t as useful because Mastermind and almost all Neutral Killers have Occupy Immunity. I suggest that the Butler’s Concentrated Wine should bypass occupy immunity, like the Drunk’s Happy Hour. This would bring the Butler on par with the Drunk a little bit.

Butler: Nightshade Wine -
The main differing ability between the Butler and Drunk, it should be a bit more useful. I suggest that it can be used starting for Day 3, as the earliest King removal. I would also suggest that it kills the King in one night, but that might be too much of a dramatic change.

Butler Rework:
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/classes-butler-rework/40952?u=livicus

Assassin: Distract -
Making it so it’s usable during a trial is such a big boon, but I feel it needs some extra time to properly silence some major chatterboxes in the castle. I suggest setting the time it prevents a player from talking to 20 seconds, double of what it is now.

Sorcerer: Magic Dust -
The whole point of Inquisitor is to find the Sorcerer, but she is almost always outed by a BD member. I suggest that Magic Dust should be changed to an ability that would make the “Sorceress” appear Blue Dragon to faction checks that night. The Inquisitor shouldn’t be messed with.

Example:
Transfiguration: (Day) (2)
Appear as a Blue Dragon to all faction checks tonight.

Inquisitor: Magic Users -
Remove the Cult from the list of Magic Users. This prevents the Inquisitor from being a major player in Cult games. Converted Magic Users would still show as Magic though.

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I agree with everything on this list. There are other changes I’m sure we want but they are not minor and they have their own threads. Mostly regarding Sheriff/Pally and King.

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Have anything minor to add though?

I guess that I like the Obs change they almost made.

And the princess results change seemed cool but I can see why they didn’t.

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I wasn’t so keen on the Princess change, but I was okay with the Obs changes too.

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Other than the Noble thing, seems pretty good

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I disagree that it’s too underpowered. I think Noble has been indirectly buffed with this patch, as everyone will have to whisper much, much more to each other without the immediate point man of the king.

I think 13-15 would be a good balance: It’s half the time an accused has to defend themselves, and would still require some skill in timing.

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I mean, I’m just saying my thoughts, but I will agree that Noble was buffed. Because both of my Noble games, I successfully pulled at least 3 clutch whispers every time, either confirming NK to King, Inq to King, or MM claiming to their Merc. More people rely on whispers now.