[Misc] Blood on the Forums IV: Glimpse of the Future (Evil Wins)

and it is official

i donā€™t know how youā€™ve managed it
but youā€™re somehow harder to talk to than emilia
we previously believed it to be impossible

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I canā€™t quote because of mobile so here is what Iā€™ll do

Post 1: kk

Post 2: I already ISOed DatBird. When I say ISO I mean going through their posts (not necessarily posting it). I already did it and I wanted you to look through it as well

Post 3: idk what ur saying here but we were talking about Wazza and then about Kyo (I think just off the top of my head) and then we talked about DatBird with Geyde initiating it. I think Iā€™ve proven that our posts are genuine because if you look at everything we both said about it it would probably be hard to fake

Post 4: kk

Post 5: This is his scummeta as Iā€™ve explained several times so him not posting much and weak reads is suspicious. Also he hasnā€™t done any townie thing either. This also proves that my read is individual.

Post 6 - 7: Getting ticked off isnā€™t a reason to scumread. My refusal is NAI because I only usually ISO when I feel like it. Did you read through DatBirds iso at the time of this post?

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Iā€™m going to move on to the ā€œreasons why Iā€™m town post nowā€

A: Mech talk is less AI and I did steer it away
B: I was trying to prove the legitimacy of our discussion in PM since you seemed to think Nap/Geyde PM was Evil Headquarters.
C: Townslip denied sure but it was genuine (I actually suspected there might be no night chat but I was too lazy to ask and I still assumed there was likely a night chat)
D: Minions can get counterclaimed if they arenā€™t careful. My early claim helps me here.
E: talking about people and what to do with them in a private environment helps. There, I have organized a reaction test for Priestess (she didnā€™t reply yet though)

Post 2 (after why Iā€™m town):
I didnā€™t read anything referred to OP/Class card

Post 3 (after why Iā€™m town post): ok

Post 4 (after why Iā€™m town post): social talk > mech talk. Okay let me explain why

Discussing mechanics can be somewhat useful when it comes to planning forward but it doesnā€™t actually help you advance the game state a whole lot. Why? You arenā€™t creating interactions, you arenā€™t creating debates, you arenā€™t reading people. Here, I read people.


Reasons Iā€™m being scumread
My tone: Luxy mentioned this but his read is pretty meta tbh. I am usually aggressive when I make my pushed
I believed Geyde so easily: itā€™s D1 and Iā€™m not forming associations that easily; I usually pursue all my scumreads and DatBird was the most notable to me. I didnā€™t actually consider Geyde scum or too much of an agenda-y scum at the moment because DatBird felt much more scummier due to his scummeta, which you forget about a lot - this is one of the reasons I suspected him. I usually pursue anyone I find a bit suspicious. Check Vanilla where I push on Wazza Day 1 despite suspecting Vulgard more because his logic made sense. Iā€™m not locking myself into, one person is scum therefore all their logic doesnā€™t make sense. Even if I did suspect Geyde more, I still think I would have pushed DatBird

Dismissing mech talk as useless: How the fuck are you scumreading this? Just because you disagree with me doesnā€™t mean Iā€™m scum.

If there are any other reasons for scumreading me please enlighten me

Verdict:

debunked

@Hippolytus

Whoā€™s the other non demon?

How is my approach a trainwreck? Iā€™ve explained almost everything

Why did the whole thread just go silent?

Iā€™m gonna read Luxy brb

Ok I read null

why are you asking this

I donā€™t like their approach to me but their approach to others are fine imo

Why shouldnā€™t we know? More info the better

Also it limits our lynches because with Wazza alive lynching Minions is suboptimal

And yes I was confident DatBird was scum prior to his response (and yes I was waiting for it)

theres no reason to out it yet though?

out it when its relevant

not when its not relevant

Actually yeah youā€™re probably right

Also If I vote to exile someone can I unvote?

tldr yes unless no